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I'm looking for something that has a very transparent, almost "hifi" clean sound, and in checking out sound samples it's looking like these Quilters will not only do that job, but have a respectable drive sound for rock/blues applications to boot. I'm intrigued, but very few of these show up secondhand. Luckily, there is a dealer close by and I'll have to put my cheap traits in submission and buy one new, but first I'd ask: anyone on this forum with real world experience with these? If so, do you also use them in rock applications?
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12-24-2014 02:50 PM
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I played mine (Quilter MicroPro 8) with a band that did from jazz standards to jazzy funk. I played my Godin nylon string guitar in channel one which is where you get a transparent clean sound, I played various electric guitars through channel two. It had enough volume for the group, drums, keyboard, bass, trumpet, sax (and guitar - me). If you need more volume, you can double the power with an extension speaker.
I'm very surprised at how good and big that 8" speaker sounds.
I haven't used it for rock, but it handles pedals well, I'm confident it would work well. Being so small and light, it does not have the rock appearance though.
I love the amp for both applications, nylon and electric. I especially love the small size and light weight.Last edited by fep; 12-24-2014 at 08:10 PM.
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I like the Aviator, but preferred my own pedals rather than the amp's overdrive. Great amp, though.
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I'm over my Quilter lust for now (I always leave myself an opening). I read some comments for Jazzer's that bought them and confirmed what I suspected from the youtubes I've heard. The amp are more geared towards people using single coil PUPs and playing more high gain Rock styles. That with humbuckers and Jazz Quilter's were okay not great. I have an AI amp and RE cab I'll stick with.
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Funny you mention that. I've got a 64' Gretsch Double Annie that I'm going to turn into a better player with a refret, new nut and tuners, and the old HiLo's sound good through my current 90's Ampeg SuperJet, but I've been re-visiting bi-tonalities and breaking down old Steely Dan tunes, and I made an offer on a nice 335 that should be here Friday.
Originally Posted by docbop
Of all of the amps that I've owned, believe it or not, my favorite for clean was a Mesa F-30. I sold it because I -hated- the drive channel with equal passion, and I'm thinking of trying another. My thought is that the drive channel may sound better with the 335, and if not, I'll just ignore it and use pedals in the clean channel.
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It'a interesting (and admittedly a bit validating) when I read that humbuckers sometimes need a little special "something" to get along with certain amps. Originally Posted by docbop
I don't own any humbucking equipped guitars, and that's one of the reasons. My Heritage Prospect and even my Heritage Sweet 16 have Fralin P-92s in them. I've found that I get a much better balance of tone for me by starting with a very crisp and clean tone from the pickup and then using the tone control, either on the guitar, or the treble control on the amp judiciously to back off a touch of the highs while still retaining a nice full sound in the bass. I did also install RS Guitarworks wiring, so the tone controls work exceptionally well. The tone I was looking for for jazz playing was the early Howard Roberts tone and this pickup gives it to me. I have also played a friend's Quilter Micropro 200 and the lust is n full force.
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I have single coils and humbuckers on various guitars. The traditional PAF's were my choice for many years, but then I started playing Fenders a lot so like the bright and defined sound. Then I got into recording and lucky to work with or be around some great engineers and producers and notice they tended to record things very bright, and bright sounding instruments sounded better once mixed down. Part of how they explained it is that bright give clarity and definition. Then when mixing boosting highs also draws out any noise so they would rather have to cut highs than boost. Also boosting bass in mixing has a more natural sound than boosting highs. I relate this to guitar and would rather have a brighter guitar and then add bass at the amp or even roll off some highs. I also prefer to EQ the amp and not roll the volume or tone off the guitar. Too me that is like padding down a microphone, mic's become dull sounding when you start padding them down. But that's just my crazy way I look at things. Originally Posted by Flyin' Brian
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Well we all hear things differently so with that I respectfully disagree w/ docbop's assesment of the Quilter not sounding good w/ humbuckers. As a pespective I'm 57 years old, gig proffesionaly for 40 of those years and play anything that pays good $ So that means Pop (Katy Perry) Gospel(Praise, Traditional) Hip Hop, Ray Charles, Muddy Waters, SRV, Jazz, including the Great American Songbook (Sintra,Ella,Louis,etc.) I've owned way too many amps and guitars to count including all of the iconic vintage,new,etc. I say this all so I have this to compare it against, not to brag.
I gig w/ either a Boogie Nomad 100 1x12" combo, or as of lately Quilter Aviator 1x12" combo. Both amps have WGS ET90 speakers replacing the original Celestions. As much as I love the clean of my Nomad, I actually prefer the clean overall on my Quilter combo. I also love that it can take pedals well, especially od/dist ones. One thing is I can run either a Piezo or Midi pickup (Roland GK-2)into ch 1. and electric into ch 2. That would be impossible on most traditional tube amps and still get exc. results! I also primarily use Humbuckers (Alnico 2 neck, Alnico 5 bridge Manilus brand mostly) And am exstatic w/ my clean tone! You really need to gig w/ this amp for awhile to get the most out of it. But that's true w/ any peice of gear as well. Hope this helps!
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A big plus on the WGS although I use an ET-65 because I just never get that loud.
And docbop I usually back the treble down on the amp when I'm doing a gig where I won't be playing anything but jazz, standards etc. But in the rock or r&b things I do, I just find it more convenient to back off the tone on the guitar.
And even though I'm not a major "gearhead", I've found that using really good pots like the ones from RS Guitarworks make all the difference in keeping it from getting really dull.
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what is the difference between the Aviator 8 inch and the Micro pro 8inch??....The aviator is a few hundred bucks cheaper.
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Less features like Limiter, Different Voicings,Closed Back Cab, etc. If you want just a Fender type of 2 channel amp, go for the Aviator.
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I have the Quilter Aviator 8" and I do use it on rock gigs. It does a great job and will get plenty loud. Like some others, I use pedals for distortion though the built-in distortion channel is decent.
Though it has amazing bass and clean headroom for it's size, I would use something bigger for outdoor venues or really large rooms unless you're going to mic it through the PA. Sometimes you just need to move more air than the 8" can handle. Add an extension speaker and just about double the volume.
I often sit in with friends and the Quilter is the best for that because of the size/power ratio. My acoustic also sounds good through it, and I have even used it as a powered vocal monitor.
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One other thought to the OP's ? If transparent uncolored tone is what you are after I would suggest Acoustic Image Clarus or similar model. That will get you high powered flat response Hi Fi clean fidelity. The Quilter while incredibly clean still lends itself to the Fenderish Tube camp flavor.
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I set my MicroPro 8 so that it pretty well clones the tone of my PRRI. When using my gypsy guitar I go straight into the power section bypassing the preamp (plug into the mic/line input) and use a Baggs ParaDI for preamp/tone shaping. Since the amp does NOT have a tweeter, you won't get the same kind of sound as you would from say an AER, but that's a plus for me.
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I'm a huge fan of AI amps, but the OP is looking for an amp that can get an overdriven sound too, and that's something that AI amps don't do without external help. When I play rock or blues through mine I use an amp modeler into the effects return and I'm happy with the result, but I suspect that's not what the OP wants to do. Originally Posted by jads57
Danny W.Last edited by Danny W.; 12-25-2014 at 11:50 PM.
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I just play at home, without a lot of gadgets,I have a soloway semi hollow that doesn't work to well with my polytone, and at some point I want to get a Godin Multiac nylon...I would guess comparing the two Quilters the less expensive Aviator would do the job?...............
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If you want a nice clear nylon sound, I don't think the Aviator will do it. BUT, I've never played through one. Originally Posted by artcore
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A nylon Godin sounds fabulous through a Micropro.
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Acoustic Image and a Buscarino Chameleon.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.... Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
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The Quilter will do it ALL. If you want the most flexibility, I.e. Different guitars or other instruments covering different types of music, the MicroPro offers that. I have a 10" which stays home and use the 8" with 12" extension for work. Those stay in the car since they get used 4-6 times a week. I play piezo equipped Parkers and Music Man Majesty stereo using ch1 for the piezo and ch2 for the Duncans etc. They run simultaneously and can be blended for quite a tonal pallet. For piano bar stuff I run a solid body mono in ch2 and an archtop in ch1. For Western swing I use a small mixer to allow a keyboard and the piezos to share ch1 with a delay in the loop and a couple of effects pedals plus hilton vp in between the guitar and Ch 2. I love nothing better than sharing a large outdoor stage with other very loud bands and carrying my 8" MP onstage and using the out through the PA. For those of you who might worry about what that LOOKS like I am genuinely sorry for you. Not. The biggest accident Quilter had was combining the 8" combo with the 12" extension speaker. They both come with Celestians but the Frequency response etc is different. When combined something magic happens to the tone. It is full and rich and I never tire of it. Thanks.
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Sounds like a very cool setup. But how do you shape the tone in Ch1? Originally Posted by KEOKI
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I know that typically when expecting 2 sounds out of one amp, -something- will get compromised. On SoundPure's site, this ^^^^^ sounded great on the arches and acoustics, but to my tastes, meh on the solid body>Fulltone. I know I'm not Larry, but I'd like to get close to "Royal Scam" era Carlton on the dirty side. Larry himself says it was his 335 into a Deluxe with the volume on 2. He didn't mention a gain pedal, but I can't imagine a Deluxe getting that filthy at any volume, let alone 2. Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
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On the Carlton gear rundown on PG he talks about that tweed Deluxe and how he just used it for the Steely Dan and later Fagen projects. He says no effects, but he doesn't remember what the settings were, that he just kept cranking the volume till the amp "would start to bark, but not trashy sounding". Originally Posted by kmaaj
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I used to run a Fishman EQ between the guitar and ch1 with the Parker's but find it unnecessary with the MusicMan. They both use Fishman stuff in the guitar. The Majesty's peizo system sounds better. Fishman obviously continues to improve that. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
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