Quilter or alternatives

[Flyin' Brian]

I know that typically when expecting 2 sounds out of one amp, -something- will get compromised. On SoundPure's site, this ^^^^^ sounded great on the arches and acoustics, but to my tastes, meh on the solid body>Fulltone. I know I'm not Larry, but I'd like to get close to "Royal Scam" era Carlton on the dirty side. Larry himself says it was his 335 into a Deluxe with the volume on 2. He didn't mention a gain pedal, but I can't imagine a Deluxe getting that filthy at any volume, let alone 2.

http://www.mr335.tv/?channel=rig&vid.../rig/tweaktone

http://www.mr335.tv/?channel=steely&...eely/steelyrig

[Phelonious Ponk]

Newbie here, but long-time player. I think when you're getting to that kind of money -- $900 -- you're so close to a custom solution that it just makes sense to put in a couple of hundred more, get a very powerful, top-quality powered PA speaker with 2 inputs and have completely separate, purpose-designed preamps for acoustic and electric, or for clean and dirty. I use a programmable digital EQ to pre acoustic guitars and that gives me 4 different pre-sets. I use a POD for electric guitars, then they both go into a small Yamaha mixer with digital effects. Two outs - one for vocals, one for guitars, go to the two channels of a QSC K8.

For a couple of hundred more than an expensive amp, I have a small PA and separate "amps" for my guitars, and far more headroom than I'll ever need.

It works.

P

[KEOKI]

Newbie here, but long-time player. I think when you're getting to that kind of money -- $900 -- you're so close to a custom solution that it just makes sense to put in a couple of hundred more, get a very powerful, top-quality powered PA speaker with 2 inputs and have completely separate, purpose-designed preamps for acoustic and electric, or for clean and dirty. I use a programmable digital EQ to pre acoustic guitars and that gives me 4 different pre-sets. I use a POD for electric guitars, then they both go into a small Yamaha mixer with digital effects. Two outs - one for vocals, one for guitars, go to the two channels of a QSC K8.

For a couple of hundred more than an expensive amp, I have a small PA and separate "amps" for my guitars, and far more headroom than I'll ever need.

It works.

P

Excellent solution if you don't mind the transport, set up, and take down. One of my objectives going with Quilter was to minimize that footprint.

[fep]

go to the two channels of a QSC K8.

P

FYI, probably not everone here is aware that the 'Q' in 'QSC' is Quilter.

[Woody Sound]

I used to run a Fishman EQ between the guitar and ch1 with the Parker's but find it unnecessary with the MusicMan. They both use Fishman stuff in the guitar. The Majesty's peizo system sounds better. Fishman obviously continues to improve that.

Actually, I was wondering more about the tone of the raw archtop through Ch1. And how do you control the delay in the loop in only Ch1?

( "For piano bar stuff I run a solid body mono in ch2 and an archtop in ch1." )

[Flyin' Brian]

Excellent solution if you don't mind the transport, set up, and take down. One of my objectives going with Quilter was to minimize that footprint.

That was my thought as well. I try to simplify. When I see a list of at least 4 pieces of equipment with the K- 8 weighing almost 10 lbs more than the MicroPro by itself and all the necessary cables for hookup and power, I see the Quilter as being an even better solution. And I don't nor do I ever want a gig that requires 1000 watts for necessary headroom!

[KEOKI]

Actually, I was wondering more about the tone of the raw archtop through Ch1. And how do you control the delay in the loop in only Ch1?

( "For piano bar stuff I run a solid body mono in ch2 and an archtop in ch1." )

I set the bass and treble to run flat (12 o'clock) and mid slightly rolled off (11 o'clock) for all applications. Each archtop has it's voicing and with the 8"+12" combination the sound is quite nice (I would add, at any volume). These tone controls apply to both channels but on the MicroPro version there are options that let you modify that sound from song to song as needed for Ch 2.
The loop is controlled by a two function foot switch that can be set by the user to switch whatever he or she wants. I have my foot switch set to work with the loop and the boost function (boost is used with the solid bodies for some applications )There is also a six function foot switch that pretty much switches all the options

[Woody Sound]

I set the bass and treble to run flat (12 o'clock) and mid slightly rolled off (11 o'clock) for all applications. Each archtop has it's voicing and with the 8"+12" combination the sound is quite nice (I would add, at any volume). These tone controls apply to both channels but on the MicroPro version there are options that let you modify that sound from song to song as needed for Ch 2.
The loop is controlled by a two function foot switch that can be set by the user to switch whatever he or she wants. I have my foot switch set to work with the loop and the boost function (boost is used with the solid bodies for some applications )There is also a six function foot switch that pretty much switches all the options

Ahhh I see, thanks - I thought the tone controls were not available at all on Ch 1. The video demos I've seen are not very clear about channel switching options or what works on what channel.

[Phelonious Ponk]

Excellent solution if you don't mind the transport, set up, and take down. One of my objectives going with Quilter was to minimize that footprint.

Well, I need the vocal support, but all of that stuff is very small, and I'm pretty used to setting up PA, so not much trouble for me. I can understand the desire to carry it all in in one box.

FYI, probably not everone here is aware that the 'Q' in 'QSC' is Quilter.

Wasn't aware of that myself. I know QSC from PA gear, been around since the 70s. So Quilter is their guitar amp line?

P

[fep]

Well, I need the vocal support, but all of that stuff is very small, and I'm pretty used to setting up PA, so not much trouble for me. I can understand the desire to carry it all in in one box.



Wasn't aware of that myself. I know QSC from PA gear, been around since the 70s. So Quilter is their guitar amp line?

P

Patrick Quilter was a founder and Chief Technology officer of QSC. He retired from QSC and started Quilter Amps.

[entresz]

My Quilter Aviator Twin Ten is superb, I really like it.
All my archtops have single coils though - Vintage Vibe Charlie Christian pickups. I have a Gibson L6-S reissue with Bill Lawrence L90 humbuckers that sounds very sweet through the Quilter.

[chrisparks]

IThese tone controls apply to both channels but on the MicroPro version there are options that let you modify that sound from song to song as needed for Ch 2.

Hey guys, Chris from Quilter here...
Just to clear up any confusion. The tone controls only apply to both channels for an instrument plugged into the guitar input.
If you plug for example a microphone or a 1/4" input into the Channel 1 aux input then a flat EQ is applied to that. Sorry if there was any confusion.

[mad dog]

I had a Quilter Aviator head. Simpler controls than the Micropro. It did very well with humbuckers as well as single coils. An excellent clean sound, with drive in there if you want it.

As much as I enjoyed the Aviator, I'm enjoying a Lab Series L3 more. 60 watts, 1x12, has excellent drive courtesy of a very effective master volume. It's a one channel amp, no separate drive channel. Can be played loud and clean. But crank the main volume, roll off the master and it changes character. So nice for fusion, a hot edge. I play mostly blues, primitive rock, not jazz per se but some fusion-esque things. And this amp does all that. Not quite tube, but has its own thing going on tonally. Like the Quilter in that way.

The right speaker helps. Came to me with an 8 ohm Eminence ceramic. The OT wants 4 ohms. I just put in a hempcone Weber ceramic. Much better.
MD