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10-06-2016 09:58 AM
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Pickboy Jazz 1.5mm - Why? Have not found a better sounding pick, after trying most of them out there.
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I floundered around trying to find the best pick for me. The shapes and thicknesses were the main criteria whereas the materials they were made from really didn't matter.
Then I discovered Wegen gypsy jazz 3mm picks.
I love the shape and thickness. The wear pattern was right for my string attack.
The wear pattern got me thinking, why could I not replicate that pattern on other materials.
Top left is the Wegen, top right is a t*********ell copy made from a broken piece of a Victorian comb set.
The rest are 3mm Dunlop stubby. Middle row right of centre is my favourite for electric playing. The rounder the tip the softer the interaction with the string.
They are all clicky sounding if you push out the pick from your fingers. I feel I have less control of the pick so I hold the pick in such a way that the flesh and nail of my thumb and forefinger get used too.
My experiments with Benson picking I find the wear patterns on the picks are the wrong way around on the pre-worked stubbies and the feeling of the pick in my grip is such that it burns me head!
For me the shape, thickness and wear pattern is more important than anything else.
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I just got a dozen Fender 451 Heavy in celluloid, like the old days. these picks look exactly like regular Fender picks, but are about 2/3 the size, very nice pick.
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I use one of those little red Dunlop II jazz picks, the funny thing is I have to always use it with the 'JAZZ' side upwards. If I use it with the 'USA' side up, it sounds thinner. So there must be some wear on it which sounds best one way. I guess I must have some sort of OCD which made me choose the 'jazz' side originally!
Actually that's one reason I keep using the same pick for a long time, the gradual wear contributes a lot to the sound.
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Originally Posted by ESCC
phenomenal aren't they? i got hip to them from a close friend and killer player, was super on the fence before he gave me a few to try...and wow i can't go back! i've always liked larger and thicker picks but this takes the cake. love the shape and range i can get out of it. really never understood the "jazz picks", the size and point of the tip really bugged me. but to each their own of course
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Since I sprang for a Blue Chip large jazz pick, I haven't looked back, nor used anything else other than briefly just to check the sound. I may have reached the end of my pick quest.
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Ditto... Originally Posted by sgosnell
Unbelievable that a pick could make such a difference both in tone (rather clean/clear/open)
... and attack (effortless/silky-smooth)..
Added benefit (as an old guy) I can grouse around and mutter grumpilly if the pick is misplaced for even 1 nanosecond...
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I like Dunlop Gator picks 1.5mm and 2mm thick. But I find them slippery. If anyone has suggestions for similar picks (shape, size, stiffness, and feel) but less slippery, that would be great. Thanks.
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I'm with you on these points - I do not care for the sound of acoustic guitars and jangly, scratchy round-wound string tones, either. Originally Posted by Philco
I also use the D'Andrea Pro Plec 354 tear-drop pick (1.5mm) on my .012-.053 flat-wounds, and find that gives me just the warm sound and feel that I want. I use flat-wounds on my cello too
. It really is amazing how much the pick contributes (or detracts) to/from the tone. I can tell you the same is true of the bow on a violin-family string instrument. That's why pro violinists/violists/cellists will pay $6,000.00 or more for a good bow. I paid more than twice as much for my best cello bow than I did for my archtop guitar.
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Fender Medium of course. (Fender 351 shape Medium). Don't over think this one.
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Anybody using those red bear picks? I've tried to get 1 but they only make them for special times and won't specially make one for order unless you're like a big name star.
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Those Dunlop jazz picks are just too small for me. Originally Posted by kris
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How did you get a red bear? Everytime I try to get one the store is empty or doesn't have the one I want! Originally Posted by Eddie Lang
Tommo, you might like the Dawg. Their shape seems similar to the two you write about.
I really like the Red Bear Lil' Jazzer and n°9; also the Blue Chip Jazz, but these are expensive. I woulnd't mind except that I found and now use the Traynor Derlin Jazz; they sound and feel a lot like the BC Jazz and the Red Bear. Plus they cost $3.60 CDN for a pack of 12.
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I had two, one tri corner and the other a standard size. They were great picks but over the years they cracked into tiny pieces and are apparently weakened by moisture. A shame considering the price and lack of availability. I guess if you never got any sweat on them they might be a good option but I think even keeping them in my pocket was contributing to the deterioration. Originally Posted by FZ2017
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I still wanna try the classic special, classic 2, and the big jazzer all with speed bevels. Originally Posted by rio
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i like dunlop 205
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polished gemstone..2.5mm thick ..a tad wider than the flat of the thumb..smooth round ends ..gives a nice warm tone on my les paul in the neck position-bass rolled off..and can bite hard in the bridge..
been using bone or stone for 40+ yrs..have tried dunlops..and others..they don't give the feel and tone I get with stone..
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Blue Chip Jazz Large 50. Second, BCJL40. I've tried stone, bone, horn, wood, so many kinds of plastic I can't even begin to remember, and the Blue Chip picks are what I've settled on. Pretty spendy, but IMO worth the high price.
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D'Andrea Vintage Celluloid 1.21mm have been my most-used picks for about a dozen years. I also use Clayton Black Acetal 1.26mm, which I can no longer find, for some big-band stuff, and Tortex 1mm for rock. All of these are in 351 shape, the only shape that works for me.
Danny W.Last edited by Danny W.; 07-27-2018 at 04:23 PM.
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Fender 351 medium
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The shoulder (round part) of a 351 Fender Medium.
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The local guitar shop has a variety container of 25 cent picks with their name and logo printed on them at the counter. There is one type in particular I like very much. It is a 351 type, "heavy" .91mm (but light by modern standards). I have to search through them for a bit because is the few in which the color is almost completely dark that I like... I think they are manufactured differently or by someone other than the rest because their edges have a smoother curved bevel and the material feels a little different. I can almost find them without looking, just by feel.
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My favorite guitar pick is the Jim Dunlop Bakersfield thin white pick. Unfortunately it is no longer made. When I worked at a music store close to 20 years ago, I discovered these picks. They are still my go to pick - stiff and somewhat thin, but they give my notes a snap that I have never heard from any other pick. Fortunately the music store had almost 300 of these, so I bought out the whole stock! Cost me almost $200. but it was worth it. This is pretty much the only pick I use, and I still have well over 100 of them, and I keep them in a sealed box. Needless to say I guard them almost with my life!
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I like Dunlop's Jazz III Carbon fiber when I occasionally use a pick.
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