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Originally Posted by wintermoon
An Irishman in a demolition crew gets an order to go blow up the car. An hour later the Irishman returns. His lips are burnt, bloodied and raw. What the hell happened to you, sez the demolition chief. Sez the Irishman, Well, I tried to blow up the car. I put my mouth to the exhaust pipe but some bastard had left the engine running.Last edited by Jabberwocky; 06-24-2014 at 05:13 PM.
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06-24-2014 05:02 PM
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Actually that is not entirely accurate. Laminates tend to feedback less because the top doesn't vibrate as much. I have both types including a sadowsky Jim hall and a l5ces. The l5 is definitely more prone to feedback. Originally Posted by fritz jones
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I've been using several cheap guitars on the last few years and everytime I bring my X-500 to the game I hear the difference, loud or quiter, big or small. I actually decided to sell the two I have now and just use the X-500 all the time. You should be able to make the L5 sound better than a Peerless... A friend of mine has an L5 which has a significantly different sound compared to my X-500.
One thing that helps usually is cutting the pickup gain which can be done 3 ways 1) cut on the volume knob (cuts too much treble in my opinion) 2) use an eq pedal and cut gain instead of the usual boost 3) if the amp has gain and the master cut gain and boost master. Lowering the pickups gain leads to a more acoustic sound and let's each guitar personality come more alive... using rounds too.
Just my personal opinion but I could never get a good sound out of a JC120 without an eq pedal. And using effects, if done properly, should not affect any of this.
Also how I guitar feels is as important as it sounds. And the L5 should feel great!
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Slap four or five coats of marine-grade clear epoxy on the top - right over the pickups, rings, everything.
That will solve the feedback issue nicely, and prevent rattling.
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Why kind of a guitar is a boat? Originally Posted by Hammertone
They are both made of wood. You can play a guitar but you cannot play a boat.
But when all else fails, you can always use it to paddle up shit's creek...especially with five coats of marine epoxy over easy.
You can't do that with a bus.
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Hey, don't shatter the dream, man….
Last edited by Hammertone; 06-24-2014 at 05:50 PM.
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I guess I gotta rephrase the riddle:
What kind of a bus is a boat?
Answer: See above.
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And now everyone understands the term "boatneck". It's all good.
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Interesting: Originally Posted by ESCC
i bought this jc120 after have heard some bireli lagrene's youtube clips playing an L-5 or a wesmo or a super V on his jc120.
but I'll keep into consideration your advice...
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I sold the twin reverb and the minibrute and I bought the jc120: Originally Posted by Greentone
it was hard to eq my twin reverb for a good tone; and the polytone was too dark: no woody tone at all; and not loud enough for a clean at high volume...
I'm pretty happy with the jc120: I'm able to get close to some bensons's, wes's, metheny's tone with it.
at home, at least...
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Some amp's change too much the sound when turned up... I am not familiar with JC-120s to know if it's the case.
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Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
given my limited skills, I believe I don't deserve a 6k $ guitar because the tone I can get from it, is the same that I can get form a decent peerless or similar.
managing a guitar like this one without getting a "special" tone that worths it, is frustrating
maybe, later in the years, if my skills will improve, I could buy another L-5.
but now I think that a "downgrade" could be relaxing for my disappointment.
also, you can hear benson metheny and scofield getting great tone with not too expensive guitars...
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Bullshit. You worked hard to afford an L5, you play damn well (I've heard you)...one need not justify their guitar purchase by talent level.
If you're in a tight spot financially, and thats the reason you're feeling guilty, i get it--i've been there. sell it and get a Godin Kingpin. It's a lesser "nothing." Listen to what Slyvains Luc and Courtney did with theirs.
But if its not a financial hardship to keep it, keep it. You'll miss it when you play any if those others.
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Uh.... Weren't laminates developed SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF REDUCING FEEDBACK? Originally Posted by fritz jones
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Some of the guys here have great advice.
Keep the guitar, you WILL miss it very soon after selling it, and cheaper guitars will NOT take its place.
It's quite possibly the amp. In fact, without hearing it or being there, I'll bet it IS the amp.
Getting used to one tone at home, and then punching it up somewhere else, is a common road to confusion.
Especially with an amp like that. Not a favorite of mine - too clean and inflexible.
Get a smaller warmer (try tubes) amp that works with you.
With so MANY amps and so many flavors on the market - how can you not find a tone that works with you?
I've had 3 Twin Reverbs in my career, because we all assumed they were the "best". How wrong - for me, and many others. A Deluxe Reverb (in the Fender tone family) would have been a much better choice, I now know.
The Twins are long gone. Smaller amps with tubes and great speakers take their place extremely well. In fact, 15 watt amps are plenty loud enough for most gigs. Try a good Princeton Reverb. For more power, Get a Vibrolux Reverb.
If you haven't already tried these. I find that these type of amps actually sound better at higher volumes, like at gig volume.
You already have a great sounding guitar, you are past halfway there. Now the quest is to get the right amp for that great guitar. Like my Johnny SMITH and L5 CES playing guitar teacher does now, play the Fender Deluxe Reverb.
And best of luck, many great tones to still be had.
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Well, there's the main problem [said the JC-hater]! Originally Posted by gianluca
Seriously, though, keep the guitar and try out different amps. Also consider buying a "working" guitar for the louder gigs -- no need to bring an expensive guitar to a gig where people can't hear it! -- unless you just simply love playing the L-5.
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I would wonder if you actually know for sure what the L5CES through the JC120 really sounds like when you gig. You're on stage and close to the amp at a higher volume level and possibly not hearing it bloom. Do you actually know what it sounds like when it projects past you? Why not try having someone try to get a fairly decent recording of your tone . . from out in the audience, off of the bandstand? Just might be a real eye (ear?) opener.
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I missed to see if the OP changed his amp gigging settings differently than the ones used at home; however, it reminded me of this great article on how tone is affected by volume differences and how to address it:
"....as a sound gets quieter the lows and highs fade more than the mids and we end up hearing the sound quite differently."
give it a look :
http://www.mackamps.com/articles/low...tone-mack-amps
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Thanks for posting that article. Really interesting stuff!
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To the OP: I often play an L5 and it is really true that depending on the room and the location of the amp, I'll get radically different sounds. That effect has nothing to do with the guitar as I have experienced that with many other guitars as well. I have had several occasions where I was totally annoyed by the boominess of the guitar (L5) on stage only to have several (knowledgable) people comment on how full and great the guitar sounds. So, it really has to do with your own perception. Experiment with the placement of your amp. Try and play loud at home and experiment with tone settings. That article linked above gives good insight on the issue.
I wouldn't sell the guitar unless I couldn't afford to keep it anymore.
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exciting advices here: I'm happy to be part of this community.
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And I concur indubitably. Originally Posted by AlainJazz
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The L5 is one of the most beautiful guitars ever made - body shape, proportions, inlays - everything click in place. Even if you didn't ever play it, it would be a beautiful sculpture, standing there in your living room. And the L5 is the mother of all jazz guitars - it has a lot of history in it.
As for the "I don't deserve such a good guitar" argument: You deserve whatever you want and can afford. Period. Are people wearing a Patek Phillippe watch better at reading the time than people wearing a cheap Casio G-Shock?
I'd definitely keep the the L5 if I were you.Last edited by oldane; 06-25-2014 at 03:22 AM.
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Originally Posted by anothersixstringer
this means that if I dial up a good tone at a low (home) volume, I have lower basses and highs when on stage for a gig at higher volume; or increase the middle.
Am I right?
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+1. Originally Posted by oldane
You can't play a Patek Phillippe, ahem, superannuated horological appurtenance. But you can play an L5CES.
What kind of a guitar is a Patek Phillippe?
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