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I am not Jack but I think the Jesse van Ruller's tone is one of the best jazz guitar sound on the planet.
Originally Posted by yebdox
Elferink guitar sounds in his hands just wonderfull.
Jesse's studio recordings on this guitar are fantastic.
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03-30-2014 02:26 AM
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yes, jesse's tone is among the best in jazz guitar history IMO. Combination of his touch and also P90 pickups and (i'm guessing) valve amplifiers.
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Well, there you go...I don't like the sound with the gain down because it provides a sound which is too acoustic for my taste. I feel the amp doesn't colour the tone sufficiently if my gain is below about 12pm, with my pickups and technique etc. Originally Posted by jzucker
To me, it doesn't make sense to always have the master on 10 and then use the gain to adjust volume to the room even though this is exactly what Mambo recommends - what that means is that at low volumes one will have almost an acoustic sound (such as in your clip) and at high volumes one will have a more coloured sound. Me, I want the same tone at all volumes, not different tone at different volumes. So I ignore the Mambo instructions completely on this aspect. The amp is still pretty much dead quiet, and I've yet to find a "downside" to my approach.
I usually use the Harmonics switch, but not always. The one setting I almost never use anymore is the "Dark" setting - I prefer the middle position.
I guess my main point is that the tone you presented in your clip is only one of many possible tones that one can get with the Mambo amp. It's possible to get a very different, much more electric tone.
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Several folks were asking what the mambo sounded like for fusion. Running it through a Raezer's Edge Stealth 10 which to me is a bit dark sounding...
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Sounds perfectly fine, not as brittle as I would expect from SS. Are you happy with it, Jack? Seems pretty versatile to me.
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yes, i'm pretty happy with it. I like it a lot better than the quilter which I never did get a great jazz tone out of due to the weirdness of their tone controls. It doesn't have quite as tubey a sound as the quilter but the tone controls are a lot better. And the tone controls are in a better place in the freq space than acoustic image. I think it sounds a tad grainy though, compared to the acoustic image. A little more polytone-esque. I would say that it's like a better polytone whereas the acoustic image has a more pure tone. I think I like the jazz tone a bit better out of the AI but the AI can get a bit muddy due to the tone control placement.
And because of the tone controls, the mambo works way better for pop and fusion stuff. It would sound ever better with a different cab. The RE Stealth 10 is nasally sounding IMO...
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Maybe I'm in a negative mood, but even though this is good, to my ears, this is not Jack at his best and I've watched most of his videos over the years since he published SOS. Obviously, I think Jack's overall playing ability is great.
To my ears, this is Jack at his fusion best:
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All amps have their "pros" and their "cons". In the world of solid-state, you have taken the World Tour of options with Acoustic Image, Evans, Henriksen, Jazzkat, Mambo Polytone, and Quilter and Raezer's Edge and Redstone Cabinets. All have their strengths and deficiencies. So you like the EQ of the mambo but the tube-like euphonics of the Quilter.
In the end, really is about finding the rig where the benefits outweigh the deficiencies. I don't think the perfect JZ amp exists unless you work closely with a builder on a custom amp.
My $.02
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as I mentioned in the video description, I was out of town for 6 days without a guitar so that is why the playing isn't up to my usual standards in the eastman / mambo clip...
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I have also owned markbass, carvin and several other SS bass amps. Originally Posted by iim7V7IM7
The mambo overall has the most flexibility I think. The quilter would be great if they'd fix the tone controls but after talking with them a few times, I'm not sure they think there is a problem.
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In your previous posts you've said that you think the T386 is too dark and has insufficient sustain for fusion. Do you still think so? Doesn't seem that way to me here ...
John
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Originally Posted by jzucker
Does anyone have a good understanding of what ranges are typically affected by which tone stack configurations, i.e., TMB ? I know that people will swap out different resistors in lieu of bright switches, or to take off some top end, and (in my ignorance) I imagine there must be some standard values for each of the TMB pots in, say, a black face configuration, vs other classic amp (or custom amp) configurations, but I don't ever recall seeing a table that would make recommendations.
I'm thinking there is some organized thought on this, like "swap x resistor for xy resistor on the middle control to boost the mids at 1200 hz instead of 800." Or some such. I'm not very savvy electronically, obviously.
Any ideas or references, Jack, fellow tone tweakers?
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download this, if you have a windows computer….it's all there, including values fender tone stacks….you can change the values and monitor the effect of the changes. Essential for modifying tone controls to taste.
Download
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It depends. It sounds ok for bluesy fusiony stuff like robben ford but it doesn't have the sustain to get the holdsworth types of sounds whereas the albatross video I did above it does. I think the T386 has a better jazz tone than the 'tross though so it's a balancing act. Originally Posted by John A.
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Great playing. The t386 is very versatile in my experience.
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Jack what did you use for overdrive in this clip? I'm thinking of getting a mambo and it sounds like it versatile enough to play other styles aside from jazz.
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wilson lotus drive. I don't like it as much as my ethos but the ethos is 4x the price Originally Posted by eazilyled
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