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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean65
    ...How's the AS153? I'm thinking this might be my best option in that price range...
    Quote Originally Posted by newsense
    ...swap the pickups on your AS153 (e.g. the DiMarzio 36th Anniversary PAF's as on the Eric Krasnow signature)...
    That's one thing I noticed with the 9's? that were on it new. I suspect the strings may have been D'Addario XL's. Swapped them out for GHS Boomer 10's and it had more midrange substance. I also adjusted the action so fret buzz was just on the verge of being a problem as I'm not a heavy picker at all. Sounds good on the neck P/U and that tri-sound (split coil?) switch definitely does make a difference. I'm also not quite GAS'ed yet for a P/U swap.

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    +1 for the SF301

    Just own it a few hours. Made in China, only sold in Japan. But with CE sticker on
    the back of the headplate.

    Soundwise I could not say too much as it is just new, the sprucetop should age a while
    before its sounding well. But its loud, even with the factory flatwounds with alot of sustain
    and low bass right now. maybe that will develop after time. very resonant at Bb.

    The woodwork is done fine and no flaws to mention. The binding looks like real wood to
    me. No plastic binding. The top is a two piece bookmatched full spruce top, 6.5mm
    at the f holes. Not really sure but the pickguard looks like painted mahogany (?).

    Frets and neck fine and rounded fret ends, clean ebony board with 20 frets up to C.

    After some small setup, intonation and rosin under the bridge it plays and sounds really nice,
    neck feels a lot like a GB10. Thin and chunky.

    One thing I will immediately change are the mechanics, there is some black rubber on the
    butterflies, feels like touching a condom ... the pickup is a bit weak but ok for the sounds
    I like to play.

    Ibanez Prestige AS200 and AF200-20140310_221056-jpg

    Cheers!
    jp

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    Quote Originally Posted by newsense
    These have appeared in online stores in the UK as new for 2014, but are not yet on the Ibanez website:

    The AF200 Prestige

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    and the AS200 Prestige

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    both have a price tag of £1700 - that's $2800 US at today's rate.

    The specs seem very similar to the Artstar models, but with Super 58, rather than Super 58 Custom, pickups. I believe the former are MIJ pickups and that the price tag, which is nearly twice that of the Artstar versions, suggests that the guitars themselves are MIJ rather than MIC. However that is still a lot to pay for a pickup upgrade and slightly (?) better build quality.

    My AS153 (Artstar) is now nearly 1 year old and I am still considering a pickup upgrade (to Bare Knuckle Mules), but that will only cost me £200, not £1000.
    Damn it Ibanez, if only you would stop using that horrible Logo script, I'de be in there like swimwear. Why can't they do a series of archtops with the old 70's logo script?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoergeBenson
    Damn it Ibanez, if only you would stop using that horrible Logo script, I'de be in there like swimwear. Why can't they do a series of archtops with the old 70's logo script?
    Would you really make a guitar ownership decision based on the script in which the logo is written? Really? I;m sorry but I find that to be just really odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    Would you really make a guitar ownership decision based on the script in which the logo is written? Really? I;m sorry but I find that to be just really odd.
    A logo script, no, for sure, but a headstock design !

    Oh no ! I'm kidding !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    Would you really make a guitar ownership decision based on the script in which the logo is written? Really? I;m sorry but I find that to be just really odd.
    Lol actually yes I would. Some of us are I guess differ on what we enjoy as form, balance, design and look.

    So an example is Heritage. As nice as they are, and I'm sure sound, I could not ever fall in love with one because the lines are just off. The headstock is too small for the guitar and instead of opening up it tapers. This to me doesn't create a 'full stop' to the top end of the instrument (if that makes sense).

    I just have an OCD thing about proportions.

    I find the Ibanez logo to look cheap, tacky and somewhat futuristic on a guitar that is trying to be classic. Its like putting the front of a new car on something like a Corvette sting ray. It just looks wrong.

    Anyway I have plenty of the older Ibanez with the spaghetti logo to keep myself sleeping at night ;-)

    Of course this is just my personal opinion and I hope no one thinks I'm trolling or baiting. It's just something that really annoys me about Ibanez. I'm sure at some point though, they will come out with a model using that old script.

    And sorry Jim that you find me so odd :-(

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    That's all right. I find a lot of things odd. My personal approach is that I view guitars first, foremost and maybe even exclusively as a tool. I love my Heritage and I'd probably play a pogo stick if it played well and sounded good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Soloway
    That's all right. I find a lot of things odd. My personal approach is that I view guitars first, foremost and maybe even exclusively as a tool. I love my Heritage and I'd probably play a pogo stick if it played well and sounded good.
    Well I think that is a great approach.

    I suppose my joy of guitars goes beyond what they play like. For me they are all works of art in themselves, hence why I get as much joy from looking at the and photographing them, as I do playing them.

    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoergeBenson
    Well I think that is a great approach.

    I suppose my joy of guitars goes beyond what they play like. For me they are all works of art in themselves, hence why I get as much joy from looking at the and photographing them, as I do playing them.

    :-)
    Perhaps I got too close to that side of things for too long. Photograph enough guitars and I suppose it becomes like photographing enough girls, just another part of the job. But playing guitars ... that never gets old.

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    A buddy of mine had an protracted GAS attack, in about 3 weeks he found 3 AS103bmnt12s, the very rare 335 style with flame maple binding, lovely bookmatched burled maple front and back, wood knobs, wood pickup surrounds and wood pick guard. He also found a couple of AF105bms. Of the three AS103bmnt12s one of them had Gibson Classic 57s in it and had been rewired with CTS pots and Switchcraft switch and jack. His wife told him he needed to let a few of them go, I grabbed up the 103 with the Classic 57s. I'm a real happy camper, it really jumps and sings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeinNJ
    A buddy of mine had an protracted GAS attack, in about 3 weeks he found 3 AS103bmnt12s, the very rare 335 style with flame maple binding, lovely bookmatched burled maple front and back, wood knobs, wood pickup surrounds and wood pick guard. He also found a couple of AF105bms. Of the three AS103bmnt12s one of them had Gibson Classic 57s in it and had been rewired with CTS pots and Switchcraft switch and jack. His wife told him he needed to let a few of them go, I grabbed up the 103 with the Classic 57s. I'm a real happy camper, it really jumps and sings.
    Ibanez Prestige AS200 and AF200-chicagoas103bm1-jpgIbanez Prestige AS200 and AF200-chicagoas103bm2-jpg
    I guess I need to have another look at these Ibanez Artcores. When they first came out, the only one I thought was worth 2 bob was the AK95 and even then I thought it was a bit, thin sounding. I didn't like the really pale indian rosewood fretboards either, so stuck with my Japanese stuff.

    However things seem to be moving on somewhat.

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    I've got an AF200 on order but it won't be arriving until July unfortunately.

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    I prefer the appearance of the old Ibanez models - these new high end guitars don't do it for me by comparison. Despite the price, aesthetically they look a bit cheap to me. Early Ibanez guitars have mojo - I'm not feeling it with most of their new stuff.

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    I have no problem with their new models I find the build quality excellent, as for mojo I couldn't care less it's sound and playabilty I want, if I was worried about prestige I would have bought an L5. The new AF200 is made in Japan and except for the LGB300 which I already have is their top model, I didn't like the old model AF200 the body was too thin for my taste, the only down side as far as I'm concerned is they don't do a single pickup version I've tried to get them to do one for me but they won't budge.
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    are the new models of Ibanez made in Japan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMikeinNJ
    A buddy of mine had an protracted GAS attack, in about 3 weeks he found three AS103bmnt12s, the very rare 335 style with flame maple binding, lovely bookmatched burled maple front and back, wood knobs, wood pickup surrounds and wood pick guard. He also found a couple of AF105bms. Of the three AS103bmnt12s one of them had Gibson Classic 57s in it and had been rewired with CTS pots and Switchcraft switch and jack. His wife told him he needed to let a few of them go, I grabbed up the 103 with the Classic 57s. I'm a real happy camper, it really jumps and sings.

    Ibanez Prestige AS200 and AF200-chicagoas103bm1-jpgIbanez Prestige AS200 and AF200-chicagoas103bm2-jpg
    Gorgeous Ibanez, Mike. Love it! Congrats.

    But wait... Are you saying that your buddy bought *all* the ones he managed to find... and that he was willing to let one go to you? What's he doing with the other four? This might be a new level of collecting for me. Some wicked GAS that must have been!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoergeBenson
    Lol actually yes I would. Some of us are I guess differ on what we enjoy as form, balance, design and look.

    So an example is Heritage. As nice as they are, and I'm sure sound, I could not ever fall in love with one because the lines are just off. The headstock is too small for the guitar and instead of opening up it tapers. This to me doesn't create a 'full stop' to the top end of the instrument (if that makes sense).

    I just have an OCD thing about proportions.

    I find the Ibanez logo to look cheap, tacky and somewhat futuristic on a guitar that is trying to be classic. Its like putting the front of a new car on something like a Corvette sting ray. It just looks wrong.

    Anyway I have plenty of the older Ibanez with the spaghetti logo to keep myself sleeping at night ;-)

    Of course this is just my personal opinion and I hope no one thinks I'm trolling or baiting. It's just something that really annoys me about Ibanez. I'm sure at some point though, they will come out with a model using that old script.

    And sorry Jim that you find me so odd :-(
    I agree with you on all counts. I too find the script tacky. However, it wouldn't stop me from buying one. The Ibanez guitars of late are really impressing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris
    are the new models of Ibanez made in Japan?
    The Artstar Prestige models AF200 and AS200 are made in Japan.

    I don't sit looking at the logo I'm usually the other side of the guitar playing it. I personally am not keen on the shape of the headstock but then I don't like the Gibson one either.
    Last edited by TonyB56; 03-13-2014 at 08:21 AM.

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    ​There were 3 AS103BMNT12s and 2 AF105BMs, one of the 105BMs went back to the seller because it was in really very poor shape (frets worn down, lots of cosmetic issues not described in ad).

    My buddy decided to sell the other AF105BM after he got an Eastman T185mx that I had convinced him he'd like (really nice flamed maple carved top, carved mahogany back, flame maple binding and SD 59s that came stock with the guitar). He got it for $1009.00 !! And I was right, he REALLY LIKED IT, Eastmans with really good electronics in them are pretty tasty guitars.

    So in the end he has 2 AS103BMNT12s, one he's planning on keeping and another he was thinking of selling but now he may not - see he scored a set of older Ibanez Super 58s in gold and is thinking of plopping them into that 2nd 103bm. This guy has had the best luck finding gear lately, he got the set of Super 58s for $90.00 shipping included. Not bad huh ?? I'll ask him and keep you posted. Here's his T185mx, pic from the eBay ad

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooglybong
    Gorgeous Ibanez, Mike. Love it! Congrats.

    But wait... Are you saying that your buddy bought *all* the ones he managed to find... and that he was willing to let one go to you? What's he doing with the other four? This might be a new level of collecting for me. Some wicked GAS that must have been!
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    Last edited by BigMikeinNJ; 03-13-2014 at 07:43 AM.

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    I like that they give detailed specs about their necks, but why do they list the body depth at the deepest part, instead of at the rim?

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    Because that's the deepest part, it would be no good choosing a guitar that was 3" at the edge and 5" plus in the middle you would have difficulty playing it unless you had long arms, also not everyone is slim some of us have bellys that get in the way

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    Ha ha.... I wondered why my ears were ringing... chuckle...
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  24. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB56
    Because that's the deepest part, it would be no good choosing a guitar that was 3" at the edge and 5" plus in the middle you would have difficulty playing it unless you had long arms, also not everyone is slim some of us have bellys that get in the way
    Nothing wrong with listing the depth at the middle, but they should also list the depth at the rim.

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    @TonyB56: you wrote you have the LGB300, happy with it? How you like the reddish ebony? Cheers! Jp

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    It's a very nice guitar lovely fast smooth neck, pickups sound very similar to classic 57's through my matamp, the ebony on mine is quite dark but that could be because I oiled it. I'm not over keen on the 22 frets 20 is my reach. I picked up an LGB30 this week I actually prefer it to the 300, I was in two minds at the time between the 30 and 300 but I liked the bigger body on the 300. I now have three Ibanez boxes LGB300, LGB30 and an AFJ95 that I fitted classic 57's in and changed the tailpiece it's still the one I play the most. Still three months until the AF200 arrives I'm gettting impatient already, if it lives up to expectations it will probably be the only one I'll play.