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+1 on the eastman ar371. seems to be the same specs of Joes last Gibson.
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01-14-2014 04:17 PM
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without the quality!
Originally Posted by bryharrell
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How's that? Originally Posted by StevieB
I keep trying to not love this guitar. But the specs make it very close to Joes last guitar. Very well thought out and clean high quality build.
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If Joe Pass Were Alive, What Guitar Would He Play?
i don't know
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I saw Joe Pas play solo live at the Blue Note in NY a few months a before he died, and he was playing the Epiphone JP. [IIRC, this was before the model was in production, and I vaguely remember hearing that his personal one was a custom-made protoype and nicer than the production model, but who knows.] He plugged directly into the PA and didn't use an amp on stage. At times, he had the guitar volume rolled all the way down, and you could hear the acoustic sound (maybe picked by mics, but the Blue Note is a pretty small room, so maybe not). I'd seen him solo once before in his Ibanez endorsing days, and it was the same thing. Just him, and a guitar. His pattern was to play what he was paid to play in public, and play either the 175 or the D'Aquisto on records. I imagine he would have continued to do that if he had lived longer.
John A.
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If he was still with us, Joe would definitely be playing a Heritage 575 in an Old Style Burst finish. Why?
- The body is just slightly thinner than an ES-175.
- The neck pickup is in the right place.
- The bang-per-buck is over the moon.
- The color is so Joe.
Geez, it's so obvious. ;-)
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Considering the popularity of vintage instruments, also among jazzists, I suppose he might still play what he did 20 years ago? Especially because mr. Pass was more concerned with music and less with gear.
Why assume he'd play something else were he still alive today?
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Except that Joe wouldn't be able to get over the shape of the headstock Originally Posted by Flat
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Very interesting points on the Gibson ES-175 variant he used latterly. Most of the photos I've seen from the latter phase of his career show him playing that guitar. Maybe his wife Ellen still has it.
Regarding the Epi Joe Pass, IIRC that guitar first came on the market about 87/88 when Epiphone models started being made in Korea rather than Japan, but initially the model was called the Emperor II. That suggests that the endorsement involved no input from Joe regarding the design of the actual guitar (apart from his signature on the pick guard). As a final point ,maybe someone out there has some idea how these endorsements work after the artist's death. Presumably it comes down to an agreement with the artist's estate. While we're talking fantasy signature guitars how about a new single cutaway version of the Gibson Barney Kessel model. 17", Florentine cutaway ? Like a bigger 175. Would'nt that be something?
Anyway, back to topic, perhaps a Peerless signature model. They seem to have more of a D'Aquisto influence.
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Rounded horn cutaway but perhaps something like this? http://www.walkin.co.jp/guitars/290413.htm .
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If Joe Pass where alive to day he would probably be to old to play a guitar!.....
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Ha! I think you're right! Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
Except that Joe wouldn't be able to get over the shape of the headstock
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I'll just point out that the initial intention of the OP was to gather suggestions on a specific guitar model and or builder that does a specific model that you think is ideally suited, amplified, to solo jazz guitar application. Like this for example.
Last edited by teleboli; 01-15-2014 at 02:31 PM.
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The above playing was a pleasure to hear...
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wow! Never saw that pic!
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I win teh Internetz every time I post it. I've been told Joe was handed the Tele, the picture was snapped and then Joe handed the Tele back. Originally Posted by bryharrell
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hmmm, well it's always nice to see Joe. Makes me want to try harder.
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While I cannot tell you where it is, I can tell you that it still lives in that gigbag and it still gets played, even on the occasional gig. A few years ago, when I was in the same city it was, I got a chance to play it for a few minutes. Sadly, I was so overwhelmed by what I was holding that I don't recall the experience with the clarity I would like to. And I totally choked, I only managed to get a few chords out as I was shaking so badly inside; it was an unreal experience and I felt like I was watching myself play it, rather than really "being in the moment". It is possible that everything will align again some time in the future and I will get another chance to play it; I sincerely hope I am calmer and can get through a simple chord melody if I do. Originally Posted by SierraTango
I will remember that experience the rest of my life.
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heavy
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I love his sound and playing. nice!
Originally Posted by teleboli
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...and for the hypothetical JP question, I'd like to see him with a Carvin Holdsworth model headless thing...ooh ya.
I realize your thread was not actually about Joe but more about what guitars are well suited to solo jazz guitar. They ALL are really and as Jim Soloway posted earlier, the real challenge is to find the guitar that works best for YOU. Just get around and start playing lots of guitars and I bet one or two of them will come alive in your hands; that's how you'll know.
I personally have a certain attack (fingernails) and overall tone in my head that I like and when I don't hear that in a prospective instrument I move on. Other deal breakers for me are too narrow string spacing and heavily built construction that is not conducive to a fingerstyle touch.
good luck and remember guitar selection is a journey you take by yourself.Last edited by mikeSF; 01-27-2014 at 01:35 PM.
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