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    Extremely bright acoustically and electrically and someone installed a humbucker sized P90 in it which exacerbates the brightness. Additionally, it has a tail-rise above the 12th fret and buzzes badly.

    When I got it, it had .010 strings on it and the high E string was spliced together out of 2 different strings. It had apparently broken above the nut and rather than put a new high E string on it, the store put a ball end through the tuning peg and twisted the two string strings together.

    Oy...

    Needless to say it's going back to Victor Litz...

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    What, did you expect a setup and new strings for that price too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    What, did you expect a setup and new strings for that price too?
    yeah, it was only a $3k guitar so why waste the money on a new high E string?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    ....yeah, it was only a $3k guitar so.....
    This case is crazy on so many levels (shaking my head)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    yeah, it was only a $3k guitar so why waste the money on a new high E string?!?
    set humbucker or floater? ever check the for sale pages?

    U could have bought the Cremona for less than 1/2 of that, and the Monarch for less than a 1/3 of that...just sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    set humbucker or floater? ever check the for sale pages?

    U could have bought the Cremona for less than 1/2 of that, and the Monarch for less than a 1/3 of that...just sayin
    I wanted something with a solid neck and not pieced together. Plus the peerless has ZERO resale value. The daquisto is the same axe as the sadowsky jim hall so I had high hopes. I did try a Jim Hall when they first came out and it was also very bright though this one with the P90 is ridiculous...

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    Oh my. Did you by this without any description or pictures? Sounds like the way the git was cared for was bad, but not the actual original axe. (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    Extremely bright acoustically and electrically and someone installed a humbucker sized P90 in it which exacerbates the brightness. Additionally, it has a tail-rise above the 12th fret and buzzes badly.

    When I got it, it had .010 strings on it and the high E string was spliced together out of 2 different strings. It had apparently broken above the nut and rather than put a new high E string on it, the store put a ball end through the tuning peg and twisted the two string strings together.

    Oy...

    Needless to say it's going back to Victor Litz...
    That is so hilariously incompetent that it defies any explanation.. Sorry your new guitar is something of a lemon, but thanks for the good laugh.

    Here's to hoping it gets resolved quickly!

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    there were pictures but you couldn't see that the pickup had been replaced. The P90 that's in there appears to be a duncan

    got my daquisto jazzline today and it's a dud-25454-jpg

    Without a super closeup, I just assumed it was a humbucker. They agreed to a 7 day trial so I'm sure they'll take care of it.

    You can tell acoustically that the guitar is very bright so even with a humbucker and without the buzzing or twisted pair e string it would not be a keeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    set humbucker or floater? ever check the for sale pages?

    U could have bought the Cremona for less than 1/2 of that, and the Monarch for less than a 1/3 of that...just sayin
    Yeah, but chances are they would've come with rope or rubber bands for strings :-)

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    How much of a gap (if any) is there in quality between Korean and Japanese made guitars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    there were pictures but you couldn't see that the pickup had been replaced. The P90 that's in there appears to be a duncan

    got my daquisto jazzline today and it's a dud-25454-jpg

    Without a super closeup, I just assumed it was a humbucker. They agreed to a 7 day trial so I'm sure they'll take care of it.

    You can tell acoustically that the guitar is very bright so even with a humbucker and without the buzzing or twisted pair e string it would not be a keeper.
    Is this the guitar?

    http://www.gbase.com/gear/daquisto-j...ew-l-sunburst#

    http://reverb.com/item/36227-d-aquis...lb-hollow-body

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    If its a Duncan, its a Phat Cat. I put two of them in my Korean Joe Pass several years ago. The pickups are a bit darker than the stock humbuckers. I kept the stock pots which are 500K I believe. Now someone could have done a magnet swap to A5's in that pickup which would make it brighter than the standard A2's. I also have TI .13 flats on the JP which are a bit brighter than Chromes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    I wanted something with a solid neck and not pieced together. Plus the peerless has ZERO resale value. The daquisto is the same axe as the sadowsky jim hall so I had high hopes. I did try a Jim Hall when they first came out and it was also very bright though this one with the P90 is ridiculous...
    Resell value?

    I've not seen a D'Aquisto sell used above 67% of retail.

    Cremona's aren't found used. And when they occasionally appear I've seen them sell as high as 78% of retail. Combine that with the cost of $1500 for a used Cremona vs. $3k for a new D'Q, I'd say the value is obviously in the Peerless.

    But I get you wanted a Sadowsky style so only that would have satisfied you...even though no satisfaction was found in this case. Why not just bite the bullet and buy the Sadowsky if that's what you want?

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    i didn't want a sadowsky style. I had a JH briefly and it was also bright and sounded pretty similar to the jazzline though it was setup properly, lol

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    I'd blow another $20 and put some nice TI flats on it and give it a proper audition. I don't know why the store didn't just throw a new set of strings in the case and then ship it. I guess margins are tight.
    As far as the bright thing, I had an Aria (who make the D-Aquitsos now) FA71 which is a 25.5 scale L5 single pick-up clone. Guitar was flawless and beautiful and played like a dream but even after I changed the pickup and put flats on, it was still a bright guitar. No plumy jazz tones. I think the heavy construction and laminate just won't let it happen.

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    i already put daddario chrome 12s on it and I think that's a proper audition. If they're good enough for benson...

    all maple guitar is going to be bright

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    all maple guitar is going to be bright
    Jack - good to see you back here and on rmmgj - just wondering if the Sadowsky Bruno or SS-15 might be of interest - both laminates with the elusive mahogany neck ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    i didn't want a sadowsky style. I had a JH briefly and it was also bright and sounded pretty similar to the jazzline though it was setup properly, lol
    Okay. All the more reason you should have tried this!

    It wasn't "bright" and for $1500 played way above that price point. Had I not come down with a bout of the L5-Super 400 disease, no way would I have sold that Cremona.


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    as I said before, i'm not a fan of scarf joint necks and the one peerless I tried, i didn't care for.

    The bruno and ss-15 are a bit rich for my blood and I'd probably want something with a bit more acoustic vibe. I actually love the Eastman El Rey except for the fact that it's neck heavy but it's a great sounding semi-hollow.

    but i digress. I'm really looking for something with a 175 sound and I've got a '72 175 coming next week. I had one before and really loved it. Only sold it to pay for some photography gear when I was ramping up my studio.

    Hopefully the one that's coming is comparable to the one I sold...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    as I said before, i'm not a fan of scarf joint necks and the one peerless I tried, i didn't care for.
    No I heard ya. All I'm sayin' is it's a shame you didn't have an opportunity give a Cremona a spin. It's far and away their best effort. Best of luck finding something that moves you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
    No I heard ya. All I'm sayin' is it's a shame you didn't have an opportunity give a Cremona a spin. It's far and away their best effort. Best of luck finding something that moves you.
    I'd gladly try one if there was one around locally but unfortunately, i live in rock-town. Land of the tatoo and mohawk. Not many jazz-friendly stores around here...

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    so I did a little more research. The cremona has a solid, pressed maple top and is only available with one pickup and is a 17" guitar with a 25.5" scale, scarf joint neck.

    Other than that, it's real similar to a 175, lol

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    What about the L-4CES, Jack? Have you not considered it? It comes in two variations: with either laminated maple back and rim or solid mahogany back and rim.

    I really like the L-4CES. It would have been more popular if the jazz greats had played it. But it wasn't available as a regular production guitar until 1987.

    It really sounds more like a small L-5CES than an ES-175.
    Last edited by Jabberwocky; 01-06-2014 at 02:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    so I did a little more research. The cremona has a solid, pressed maple top and is only available with one pickup and is a 17" guitar with a 25.5" scale, scarf joint neck.

    Other than that, it's real similar to a 175, lol
    2b doesn't suggest it unless it's the real deal!

    Ask Jim Soloway about his Cremona. The Cremona is more harmonically vibrant than an ES175. They're promoted as being "carved" maple tops. Who knows...all I know is they're probably the best bang for the buck beneath $4k...ridiculously musical without a hint of "brightness."