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To be safe the speaker rated RMS power has to be at least the rated RMS power of the amp, so your speaker is ok.
Originally Posted by kris
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03-16-2014 06:00 PM
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i think he's more of a "throw a box together around the speakers" guy though I agree his work is very nice. The box method works ok on open back cabs (infinite baffle) but ported cabs need some engineering to them which is what RE and earcandy are doing. I talked to earcandy about putting in the emi beta 8s in the cab which are rated at 225 each for a total of 450w so that's probably the way i'll go. Originally Posted by marcwhy
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Cool I'm glad you reached Tim. That cab's gonna knock walls down! Originally Posted by jzucker
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Hi! I´m new here. I tried out the Mambo Amp 10" and I think this is a very good clean amp; a very good compromise between portability and good sound. But I wonder if the Mambo 12" is just a bit better in terms of roundness and "3D-Sound". So is the 12" just louder in terms of volume or does it make the guitar sound "bigger"? Any users who did a direct comparison?
Best,
lapideus
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Yes, I have both the 10" and the 12" models. As you'd expect, the 12" is bigger-sounding and of course louder. The 12" is compact, but quite a bit bigger than the 10", and also a few pounds heavier. I think both the amps sound very ''round', as you put it, for solid-state amps.
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Thanks. But do you think the 12" is "better", that is, it has another character in sound, or is it all about volume?
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I don't think one is "better" than the other. It really depends what you want it for- I find that the 12" can handle most gigs, whereas the 10 runs out of steam with a heavy-handed drummer & horns. The 10 has a slightly more mid-focussed sound, whereas the 12 sounds a bit more open- but these characteristics are not good or bad, it's more what you are looking for. All mambo amps make the top notes sound fat and 'weighty" IMO.
Hope this helps - sound is very subjective
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Thanks. I think the 12" will fit for me then (I´d like the extra openness). Any other suggestions? I tried the Henriksen 10" but it sounded boxy compared to the Mambo 10". AER is too sterile to my ears. Portability is important. One channel is all I need.
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Quilter? The MicroPro200 comes in 8", 10" and 12" combos, the Aviator in 8", 2x10" and 12" and they've recently released a 15" combo, the Steelaire, which I wish wasn't so pricey... Originally Posted by lapideusvir
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@ lapideusvir: I don't think you should necessarily assume the Mambo 12 is better for you. A lot of the tone comes from the guitar. My 16 x 3 archtop sounds big and open almost no matter what I play it through. On the other hand, my chambered solid body does not sound great through the Mambo 8 - it definitely benefits from a 12" speaker.
If you play archtop guitars with some body depth to them, in my experience a 12" speaker is much more prone to cause feedback than a 10". My Mambo 8 handles almost everything I throw at it, and I understand the Mambo 10 sounds much bigger than than the 8, so don't shortchange the 10. But if you usually play solid bodies or semi's, then the 12" is probably a better choice to get a nice jazz tone.
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how loud would you like to play?
for louder situations much better is 12" speaker...
just my jazz expierience.
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I have tried a demo of a mambo 8 from Jon shaw and have just received my mambo 10. To me the difference in tone wasn't that big but the 10 is louder. Also heavier. I'm sure there is a similar difference between the 10 and the 12. I couldn't believe the full sound that the 8 was capable of.
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@coovinny: I play mostly a semi Ibanez Artist and a GB-10. So mabye my sound benefits from a 12". Also I sometimes play with multiple horns and drummer. Maybe the 12" doesnt loose steam in such situations.
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12" speaker is very good for gigs...
10" speaker is nice for home practise...
8" is very light...:-)
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@BigDaddy: Quilter seems to be nice. Unfortunately I cant try them out here in Europe. Nice to have all these options (boost, trem, etc.)... Has anyone compared these to the Mambos?
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There are some comparisons here. Off the top of my head, the Quilter tends to have a more scooped, Fender Blackface sound, and the Mambo is more flat, Polytone-ish. The Quilter delivers more overdriven tones, but you could always get that with a pedal. Originally Posted by lapideusvir
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Forum member Jack Zucker tried both out recently. As I remember it, he found that the Quilter was more Fenderish while the Mambo was more Polytonish - of course it's more a general bias in a direction than an exact replica of the sound of those amps. Originally Posted by lapideusvir
As for Mambo, they are very nice jazz amps, but they are more or less one trick ponies. They cover classic jazz playing perfectly (Joe Pass, Herb Ellis, Tal Farlow etc.). They are not the amps of choice for rock gigs. They are pretty dark sounding, and I prefer to have mine on the "bright" setting - with the bass/middle/treble controls almost neutral. I do love them for what they are. I have a Mambo head (with a Redstone 10" cabinet) and have a Mambo 8 Wedge on the way for when I want it really light and portable.
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@oldane:
I understand. Well, the Quilters seem to be built for lots of types of music, hence all the knobs and second channel (overdrive), but you can use pedals for the Mambo (fx-loop) easily ... so its a tweakable pony ;-)
I dont think anyone will use such tiny amps for a rock gig anyway. But too bad, I cant check out a Quilter...
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Mainly I agree with you. Originally Posted by lapideusvir
As for pedals with the Mambo, yes, it's possible, but if I was to go the "modular" road, I might choose something more neutral such as an AI head (which is also more powerful than a Mambo) and then do the tone shaping and effects on pedals or other units in front of it. For jazz, you'll certainly get a long way with an AI head and say a BarbEQ or a Sansamp Paradriver DI, and that way you can get very close to the sound of the Mambo - and a lot of other sounds as well.
The beauty of the Mambo is that it gives this very nice jazz tone right out of the box with no extra units and almost no tweaking at all. It's very portable, and you can just plug in the guitar and play. This is IMHO the core strength of it.
As for being a tiny amp, yes, it's tiny in size but not in sound. But of course, nothing beats a Twin Reverb for sound and headroom, and it's definitely the best sounding amp I have never owned. But if I was to use a Twin Reverb, with my knee and foot joint osteoarthrosis, I'd have to hire someone to schlepp it around.
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The mambo can do rock-ish. This is at a gig a couple of months ago, I couldn't be bothered to lug my tube amp along so used my Mambo wedge 10.
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Nice playing! so you used an overdrive, I guess. How did you set you amp? Originally Posted by Gabe
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It's a Mooer flexboost (xotic ac boost clone) providing the overdrive.
I have the amp in normal mode with a bass boost and a slight mid cut to try and cop more of a fender-ish amp tone.
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thanks! Originally Posted by Gabe
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I cant find the thread anymore but somewhere was mentioned, that there is an option to enhance the reverb of the Mambo, that is that Jon Shaw can add more control (potis) to the reverb section. Has anyone a modded reverb version?
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I do, sounds great, best on-board digital reverb ever - and it was actually my idea I believe. E-mail him, I think the mod is now different.
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