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My first all Maple archtop. This completes the trio tryout consisting of a Monarch, Imperial, and now Cremona.
Reports were the Cremona was known for its warmth, sustain, possessing the bell like clarity of a spruce top. Reports R Right. After the install of a set of Thomastik Bebop 13's the Cremona displayed surprising acoustic volume. The humbucker is so warm, and the electric tone bonafide jazzmo...this is one warm and friendly archtop.
Highly recm'd!
Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 09-28-2013 at 01:45 AM.
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09-24-2013 08:08 PM
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I love the look of these and if I ever purchased a Peerless, that would be the exact guitar I'd go for.
As an owner of an all solid maple archtop, I'm surprised to hear of the acoustic volume...my Heritage has a small but pleasant acoustic voice...plugged in is where it really shines...I imagine this guitar sounds great plugged in too.
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Beautiful guitar man! I'm going to have to try an all maple. I'm on the hunt right now.
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2Born,
Looks great--the videos I've heard sound real nice too (I'm a sucker for archtops with built-in humbuckers). I've never (in person) seen or played a Peerless. I presume the action and play-ability are quite good. I know I can't complain about the photos and videos I've seen. The only thing I can think of that's better than NGD, would be to have Pippa Middleton walk up to me and tell me I'm awesome! Jeff
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Yes, I've owned the 575 too. They're voiced differently than the Cremona. Each fabulous in their own way. 17" vs 16" is a game changer volume wise.
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
ThX. Good hunting! Originally Posted by petermelton
hey Jeff! Peerless' are pure sleepers. Any of this trio is a bonafide players guitar. But out of the 3, this Cremona is tough to beat. You're welcome to come sample it anytime! Originally Posted by helios
Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 09-28-2013 at 01:47 AM.
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Very pretty -- congrats!!
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Wow... beautiful!
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That would be a great guitar for jazz gigs I bet.
Congas Bop!!!
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Really jazz box!
congrats
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Wow!!! how beautiful!!! Congrats, i'm starting collecting money
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Yes, electrically the guitar is a gem. The humbucker is styled right out of the 57 Classic genre. U'd think it was a Gibson.
So, last nite I was rackin' my brain about, why even though I'd previously never seen or played a Cremona in person it seemed very, very familiar. And of course it's buggin' me into a sleepless night...hey what can I say, when you've had 70 some archtops pass through your door in less than 3 years it's a lot of familiarity to keep track of.
And finally, at 3' in the morning there's that VOILA moment!
My first dual guitar entry into archtop kingdom, read disease, was a pair of 80's Japan made Yamaha AE1200S archtops. Many don't know those guitars, which is a pity, because they're very well built, versatile, and superb players. They've ebony to die for...old school black ebony that feels like silk. And although the poly seemed a bit heavy the finish didn't deter from the guitars merits. They're slowly becoming a hard find, and I feel fortunate to have owned 4 of them. Yes, when you find something that's good 4 is always better than 1.
Anyways, this Cremona has a feel, fit and finish, equivalent to a modern day AE1200S, albeit with a different voicing...having a carved maple, instead of a laminate spruce top, clearly the Cremona has more acoustic punch. But the fit, finish, and playability is every bit as good as those now classic Yamaha's, which by the way were not "lawsuit" guitars, even though every time I've seen one posted for sell the sellers refer to them as such.
If you ever find an AE1200S....don't hesitate to pull that trigger...thank 2b later!
Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 09-25-2013 at 11:52 AM.
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what's the idea behing the extra screw in the pickup assembly?
"hey what can I say, when you've had 70 some archtops pass through your door in less than 3 years"
70? whoa!
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actually a few more...I've lost count. Originally Posted by wintermoon
perhaps the "screws" are a Peerless thing...I haven't a clue. Any humbucker will fit. If I were to keep it clearly I'd place a handwound KA there...my personal fav.
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2Bop,
I thought you played TI Swings, the Bebops will enhance the acoustic properties no doubt.
I recently played a new Cremona and JazzCity in a shop near WDC, I preferred the Cremona however the JazzCity had a louder acoustic voice. IMHO, the Cremona's nail the WesMo tone.
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Originally Posted by wintermoon
tilt adjustment
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Hey ESCC! Nope, I've never sampled the TI Swings. I've owned many a pair of TI GB's, and recently saw a pair of these TI Bebop's on feebay for $28 for 2 sets, so thought it was time to sample them...that's only $4 more than what I pay for a single set of GB's. Originally Posted by ESCC
Never tried the JC...But I'd imagine it's cut from the same cloth as the Monarch, Cremona, and Imperial. Does Peerless make a bad guitar? I think not. Was the Cremona used, if not what price were they asking?
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Hey 2B, Congrats on the new Cremona as well as the plug for the Yamaha AE1200S! I'm very pleased with my 1200S, as you can tell by my avatar. Just one question, did you mean "laminated spruce top"? I believe the AE has a solid spruce top, hence the "S" in 1200S. As always, I love reading about your guitar and amp adventures on the forum. Happy playing! -- Joe
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2Bop,
I believe Swings and GBs are the same TI flat strings, but the sets are comprised of different gauges(?).
Yes both guitars were new, I believe the Cremona was in the $2,200-$2,400 range, it was Plek'd, it was pretty, it wasn't loud.
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Maybe a TI Swing and GB user can verify...I've only used the GB's. Originally Posted by ESCC
interesting...could these TI Bebop strings make that much of a difference on this guitar...it's my first time sampling them, and they're almost like a 1/2 round...and half rounds I've used on any past archtop made it louder than flats.
also, my frame of "loud" reference is perhaps twisted from others, as I NEVER use a pick...it's thumb or finger style only for this kid.
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Hey Joe, wassup! Originally Posted by losaltosjoe
Ha, you're using my pic! I bought that blanket at Costco to use as a backdrop to the guitar before shooting it. That's funny! You'll notice the pickguard was an aftermarket I had my luthier make...little did I know I could have had one made from nitro, that he had on hand, until after he made that guard with the black and white edge.
I thought the S in 1200S meant a solid top too...until I took one of mine down to my trusted luthier for a pickup swap, and he informed me, after pulling the pup he determined the top was laminated. So, obviously I felt confused, to put it lightly.
My last two, a sunburst, and a natural, went to LA. Another sunburst went to, of all places, Switzerland. I miss the blonde most of all...I loved that beefy ebony bridge...the blonde was the only one I received that came with both the factory ebony and TOM bridge.
How's that Headstrong amp working for you...did you get it dialed in with those TAD low noise 7025's?Last edited by 2bornot2bop; 09-25-2013 at 05:57 PM.
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maybe you have some audio samples of cremona with your setup? just curious...
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I'm an old fart...I don't even have a pick. One of these daze I'd like to learn to create a recording via my iMac. Originally Posted by asedas
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Hi 2b,
Small world... I can't believe I lifted a picture of your AE1200S off the web. Do I owe you royalties? As soon as my new pick guard arrives (the original was starting to show signs of "nitro rot"), I will update my avatar. My AE did not come with an ebony bridge. Would I be correct to assume that the ebony bridge has a warmer, mellower tone? Let me know if you come across one. I'm really enjoying the Headstrong amp with the new TAD 7025s. But still trying to dial in that magic tone... starting to think I might be the problem...
Cheers, Joe
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No royalties. Any pic on the web is fair game. Surprised you didn't catch it in the pics I posted. I took each of those pics. Originally Posted by losaltosjoe
Much warmer with the ebony bridge. It's the beefiest ebony bridge you'll ever encounter. I'll post a pic tomorrow. U may consider taking your amp to a specialist to tune it. My guy charged all of $40.
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Lee Cremona 16 looks very interesting...with new tailpiece....:-)
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