Wooden tune-o-matic

[kenbennett]

Hey, the hallmark a guy who regularly has to make things actually work: Find out the real story, vs. any sort of interpretive (or dumbed-down) instruction text, ...

Way to go KB.

My pleasure. I knew that my opinion alone would be worthless.

[PTChristopher]

Definitely no sweat at all between us Jabber. I prefer the back-of-the-team-bus push and shove style in this friendly forum. It gets the info and opinion out there more effectively.

But lately I think about how the occasional degenerative vibe must seem to lurkers and non-US English speakers. So a little excess caution from me.

Ya jerk.

Chris

[Jabberwocky]

Ouch?

[PTChristopher]

Har-har.

[kenbennett]

Guess if you don't pin it, drop it and then break it, all you're getting from Larry is, "Did you RTFM?!! Didn't I write that you must pin it?!! So, you thought you're being smart, yeah?!!".

Is Larry going to life-time guarantee it if you don't FTFM? (Follow The F$$king Manual).

Read Page 1, paying particular attention to Line 6.

There's a good reason for dumbed-down manuals. There's a good reason for reading the effing manual and following instructions. The reasons may not be so dumb when you delve a little deeper.

And i quote: The problem of foolproof devices is that they tend to underestimate the ingenuity of a fool. Unquote.

Gotta love Larry. Couldn't have said it better meself.

I would take responsibility for it myself. If wanted to pin it, I'd pin it. If I didn't want to, I wouldn't. And if I broke the thing, I certainly wouldn't expect a free replacement.

Larry seems like a nice guy. However, his sense of humor comes through more in his instruction manual than over the phone.

By the way, when I quoted the line from the instruction manual that says you "must" pin it, Larry said, "Is THAT what it says?"

[bluefonia]

My pleasure. I knew that my opinion alone would be worthless.

You got a point there ...

[yebdox]

Have you guys seen this from Sadowsky?

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I bought one for my new (used) Jim Hall model, but haven't installed it yet, as the stock wooden bridge sounds pretty good, but if you are thinking of a softer, woodier tone for a simple swap on an L5, it might be worth a try. (I might try it on my Wes some day, but I'd rather just play, than waste a set of strings... maybe I'll get more adventurous at some point.)

[Philco]

Have you guys seen this from Sadowsky?

True-Tone Bridge - Shopping Cart Software & Ecommerce Software Solutions by CS-Cart

I bought one for my new (used) Jim Hall model, but haven't installed it yet, as the stock wooden bridge sounds pretty good, but if you are thinking of a softer, woodier tone for a simple swap on an L5, it might be worth a try. (I might try it on my Wes some day, but I'd rather just play, than waste a set of strings... maybe I'll get more adventurous at some point.)

Yeah I have one of these on my L5 Wesmo. The change in tone was remarkable........for the best. I'm a wood bridge convert. THAT was the tone I was after.
It solved some metallic plectrum noise as well(because I use heavy flatwounds and strike the string with the plectrum on an angle)

But the change in tone on the initial attack of the string is what I love about this bridge.
It's not quite as in tune as the Gibson tunomatic but it's very useable.
I had one on my 775 as well.
Just pops right on.

[yebdox]

Thanks, Philco, I will have to work up the energy to try that with my L5. I wonder if the original item this post is about would work as well or better, given that it can be adjusted, if one just chose to ignore the piezo installation.

[Jabberwocky]

Well, yebdox, I dug out this thread: Intonation with wooden bridge .

You can make up your own mind on whether a wooden TOM is necessary at all after reading it.

[yebdox]

Hey, thanks! Certainly something to think about. Good intonation is such a mystery to me. I know that heavier gauge strings are easier to intonate (I think) but I don't understand why my '52 Tele RI (old style brass barrel bridge) and my GB10 (ebony bridge) both are easier to tune across the board than my L5, 335 and 2 Strats, all of which were feitenized. Guess I need to start reading some basic tech books and see what I can figure out. A buddy of mine (great player) owns about 30 guitars, but prefers any of several custom shop LPs that he has set up, nearly all with 10's. ALWAYS in tune, no matter where or what he plays, and he can make a Les Paul sound better than most 335s and some L5s.

Mystery to me.