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  1. #26

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    "An interesting fact is that the silverface Deluxe Reverbs had better speakers than the blackface amp. The blackface had Oxford while the silverface could have either Oxford, CTS or Utah. Having experienced all these speakers in several Fender amps, we consider the CTS and Utahs to be superior to Oxford, particurlarly in single 1×12″ application requiring high performing speakers that can deliver both punch and sparkle. The good news is that you may get reconed Oxford speakers that sound awesome. There is your ultimate player’s and collector’s amp."

    Deluxe Reverb fenderguru.com. Fender amps, mods, modifications, vintage, maintenance, tubes, speakers, schematics, blackface, silverface, jens mosbergvik.

    Which of the three is yours?

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    Just going back to the idea of increasing headroom with a more efficient speaker, I've got my eye on a 61' Ampeg Reverberocket in really good nick. I'm very tempted to get that and a Cannabis Rex (of course retaining the original speaker for resale). 18 watts and an efficient speaker should be ample I think?

    The majority of the Jazz gigs I do don't demand ultra high volume (just enough to keep up with a lively-ish drummer) and when I need LOTS of volume I just run my ZT lunchbox into a 4x12.

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    It turns out, I have a Pyle speaker from 1980 in it, which used to be Utah.

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    What's the reference?

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    C1098102. Which I now realize is 81. 1098 is the manufacturer code for Pyle, I think? 1 the year and week being 2nd. Does that sound right?

  7. #31

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    Yes, that's what ii says here

    Twin Speaker Code (translated the page to english)

    Contact Fender for the specs on sensitivity, everytime I contacted them they were extremely helpful and quick.

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    The majority of Internet chatter seems to say these speakers are shit. Any thoughts?

  9. #33

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    No experience sorry but have read the same you did. The C Rex should match your amp well in theroy and make it louder and probably improve the sound. But if you like it as it is... maybe other forum membeber have experience with those fender speakers and replacements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whosgarethparry
    The majority of Internet chatter seems to say these speakers are shit. Any thoughts?
    Hey Gaz,

    Played a Silverface Deluxe with an Eminence Tonkerlite some time ago. It sounded great and loud enough and the amp's owner seemed to think it was a massive improvement vs the original (which I think was the same as yours). After that experience I replaced the original crap speaker in a Traynor YGM3 I used to own with a Tonkerlite and it was also a great match-saves a bit of weight too. Just another option...

    Themis

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    Cheers Themis.

    I choose the amp against 10 other quality amps (vintage fenders, reissues, boutique etc) and went for mine because of the fatness and tone. I can't decide if the speaker is giving me part of that sound or holding the amp back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by whosgarethparry
    Cheers Themis.

    I choose the amp against 10 other quality amps (vintage fenders, reissues, boutique etc) and went for mine because of the fatness and tone. I can't decide if the speaker is giving me part of that sound or holding the amp back...
    Well the good thing about speaker replacements is that they're reversible...you can always buy one used and try it out for a while..

    To Gabe,

    Wienbrock amps are fantastic sounding-played a Gringo recently...I'm pretty sure Rob will be happy to tweak to your specs so I assume you've spoken to him...

  13. #37
    Nuff Said Guest
    My Fender Deluxe mods:

    Celestion Neodymium Speaker
    Diode Rectifier
    6L6 Power Tubes.
    Trem Tube Removal
    Reverb Tube 12AU7
    40Watt Output Trans
    40Watt Input Trans
    Hand Wired Point to Point Board.
    Extra main Caps
    Girth Mod switch.

    Nuff

  14. #38

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    I've got a line on a second hand Rivera R55, what's the general consensus on these? Its not exactly a bargain price so I'm not sure if I should just hang on for a deal on a twin or something similar.

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    I've got a line on a second hand Rivera R55
    Great amp!
    You can never miss with a Rivera,except a couple of high gain "rocky" ones,all of them are "sweet" things on the clean channel.
    Then it has a lot of headroom to spare....