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    If you want the Byrdland story, you should watch this movie.









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  3. #102

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    Last one.

    Here's the Byrdland in action.

    This guy's picking technique is all wrong. He'll never amount to anything. He should just give up.




  4. #103

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Grass
    Okay, I'll bite. What do you hear happen at the higher frets? Do you believe it is related to the pitch frequency, neck position, or both?

    I do hear the strings tend to slap the frets and consequently a more rapid decay. I don't find that unique to Gibson though and is technique related.
    Just a total hollowing out of the note. Your right decay is too fast, trebles when amplified usually too brittle. Obviously you know this and have experienced it yourself as you said.

    It's not something unique to Gibson, its just that we are talking about Gibson so I was being selective in that way. Its also something that annoys me because it can easily be controlled but again, Gibson designs dont change or improve so that never really happens.

    I have plenty of other guitars that don't do this past the 12-15 and they are much cheaper.

    Thats why it annoys me in regards to Gibson.

    TBF I didn't encounter any string slapping etc. My Byrdland was set up so well it was simply lovely to play. I didn't find the string tension to be too soft either. I found with 12's it was pretty much like having the same on an Es-175, which surprised me a great deal.
    Last edited by Archie; 03-01-2015 at 08:30 AM.

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    Very interesting. Johnny Smith stated that he worked to get the best sustain from his guitars. He did not want the cupid's bow or air under the fretboard because he thought that diminished the sustain.

    He had a beautiful harp-like high register sound in some of his recordings. The richness of his high note playing I assumed was due to fat strings and a high action. Maybe not.

    Thanks.


    Quote Originally Posted by ArchtopHeaven
    Just a total hollowing out of the note. Your right decay is too fast, trebles when amplified usually too brittle. Obviously you know this and have experienced it yourself as you said.

    It's not something unique to Gibson, its just that we are talking about Gibson so I was being selective in that way. Its also something that annoys me because it can easily be controlled but again, Gibson designs dont change or improve so that never really happens.

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    High action certainly wouldn't help sustain in the upper register...

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    Nothing but love here for mine.

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    It could. It would mitigate the string slapping.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    High action certainly wouldn't help sustain in the upper register...

  9. #108

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Grass
    It could. It would mitigate the string slapping.
    Too high or too low are sustain killers. Classic archtop physics--Freddie Green, very high action, tons of volume, almost no sustain.

    Johnny's clear as a bell sustained tone came largely in part from the fact he embraced and looked to better amplification rather than viewing it as a necessary evil.
    Last edited by mr. beaumont; 03-01-2015 at 12:00 PM.

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    Here is a performance that has made me want a Byrdland for a very long time.
    It's David T. Walker playing on a R&B song by Bobby Womack. He's riffing through out the song but He starts a solo at about 5:26 - graet stuff.


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    Seen MG on Later with Jules a couple of times, with a small group and also with a band, always found her intriguing, and the band very smooth. Thanks for posting the link to the back story, it makes her more intriguing for me. I really like her playing and singing - and she has some lovely guitars!

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    Well after dealing with some arthritis in the hands and back the past few years which made it difficult to play a 25 1/5" scale and a 3" + deep body, I think I finally found my dream guitar! I picked up this long scale 24 3/4" Byrdland, to top it off it has ALNICO V Stapletops! I cant believe how good it sounds, It had roundwounds on it when it arrived and it sounded really nice with that piano like tone from the wound strings. After stringing it with some flats it sounds just as good, although less bright, it still has the piano like tone and I may even try using the bridge pickup! The neck isnt as big as my WesMo or L5 CT but still very comfortable.I dont think its ever been played before, its mint, not a scratch anywhere. Bob Gibson Byrdland-byrd_land_mnb_brg2-jpg Gibson Byrdland-byrd_land_mnb_all-jpgGibson Byrdland-byrd_land_mnb_back-1-jpg

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    That's smokin'. The scale length change makes a huge difference. Congrats!

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    And it's blue ! Lovely !
    I love thinbody archtops, too.
    Congrats !

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    Congrats--a rare byrd, or should I say bluebyrd?

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    Oh Boy, That is nice! You sure know how to find them. Really striking. The extra scale length makes it look more symmetrical. I love it!
    Thanks for showing me something I've never actually seen before.
    Joe D

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpguitar
    That's smokin'. The scale length change makes a huge difference. Congrats!
    RP, what is the huge difference that it makes to you please? My Campellone has 25" scale, and most of my other guitars have are 25.5" scale. I want to know please. Thanks.

    Top of the Arch: I've not been fond of blue guitars, until now. This guitar of yours is a beauty.

    Steve

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    wowww - this is truly special! Congrats - it looks like a winner!!
    Great idea to do a 24-3/4 Byrdland ... and man - IT'S F****N BLUE!
    it looks great and the pickups are also special. I'd love to hear it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skykomishone
    RP, what is the huge difference that it makes to you please?
    The standard 23.5" Byrdland scale is off-putting to me. I'm sure it's fine but it just bugs me from an aesthetic perspective (bridge placement, squished pickups). Now 24.75" and up, no problem.

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    The Blue Byrdland, saw it a couple of years ago on You Tube ,they were
    available in Japan, when I asked our Gibson dealer about it the prediction
    was special order only with a loooooong wait and a big increase in price .
    I loved it but virtually unobtainable here in the UK and very costly.

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    Thanks everyone. It really does tick all the boxes of my ideal guitar, the color, not so much, but unless its in bright lights ,it looks black. In direct sunlight its a deep cobalt blue which I DO like. To find one with Stapletops , I consider myself very lucky. Im glad I never found a spacer to put a Stapletop on my Wes Mo. Im thinking its a keeper, its a 2012. Bob
    Last edited by Top of the Arch!; 09-24-2015 at 07:40 PM.

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    Care to share the source, or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Sound
    Care to share the source, or no?
    Bought it from Guitar Planet in Japan. Bob

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    Nice! I agree that the longer scale fits the guitar much better visually. I dig thin body archtops!

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    Congrats! What a beautiful deep rich Blue. I remember that the used price was stonkingly attractive.

    Here's your beauty as originally presented by Ikebe Gakki:



    I note that it has the luxurious Schaller SealFast Bullseye tuners instead of the plodding standard ones.
    Last edited by Jabberwocky; 09-25-2015 at 12:18 AM.