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I thought that I was getting my GAS under control, but last night I snapped-up yet another archtop (vary used Eastman Jim Fisch on ebay - couldn't pass it up). So I'm trying to thin the collection once again and am considering selling my CWII. Anyone want to talk me out of it?
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06-16-2011 08:19 PM
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You could ask this guy:
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No I don't use a Kingpin CW II for jazz.
I use a single pickup non-cutaway version.
What other guitars do you have? I'm hanging onto my Kingpin probably forever...one needs a jazzbox they don't have to worry about.
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Well, that's the problem - its kind of embarrassing!
Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
No I don't use a Kingpin CW II for jazz.
I use a single pickup non-cutaway version.
What other guitars do you have? I'm hanging onto my Kingpin probably forever...one needs a jazzbox they don't have to worry about.
Here are my archtops:
Gibson ES-175
Ibanez SJ500
Eastman Uptown
Ibanez AF105F
Ibanez AF105
Ibanez AF125 (at one time I had all of the Artcore Customs)
Godin 5th Ave
Godin 5th Ave Kingpin CWII
The Loar LH-650
The Loar LH-350
Gretsch Syncromatic G400
Eastman Jim Fisch - inbound
Of these, I'm only really thinking of selling the CWII. Ultimately, I want to have a small collection of really nice guitars, rather than a big collection of "decent" guitars. I just hate to part with the Godin. So I'm on the fence.
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Somehow the term "I just hate to part with the Godin" seems fairly well defined as a position from which a decision can be made. I know that if I used that phrase, I would simply keep it until such time as the "hate to part" extinguishes down to "take it or leave it" or at least something a bit less traumatic. Originally Posted by djelley
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Just keep the Gibson and one Kingpin as a throw-around guitar for occasions where you don't want to bring an expensive instrument...
The rest you don't realy need.....
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I was monitoring that Eastman, great price! Looking forward to your assesment on it's condition/value once you receive it. I'll keep my fingers crossed that there are no surprises.
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Well of course you need the Kingpin--you need the P90's!
I'd ditch the Ibanez hollowbodies (except the SJ, those are cool), Loars and Gretsch first. Ain't nothing those can do that the Gibson and Eastman can't cover.
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how do you rate the sj500
is it worth all that dough ?
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Bah! Keep the Eastman Uptown, Gibson 175, one Ibanez w/ humbuckers and the Gretsch G400 or Loar 650. The Gretsch and Loar are the only true acoustic archtop non-cutaways in the bunch. Gretsch is prettier but the Loar sounds better. It's fun selling other people's things. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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Personally, I think it's more fun to make people spend their money. Originally Posted by spiral
I mean, how does this guy live without a semi hollow...ooh, and a selmer style?
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Fair enough. I tell them what to sell, you tell them what to buy. We can work it out. Selmer would be nice but how about a good Danelectro beater? Vintage or new--doesn't matter. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Personally, I think it's more fun to make people spend their money.
I mean, how does this guy live without a semi hollow...ooh, and a selmer style?
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LOL - I only listed my archtops! I have others.... Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
Personally, I think it's more fun to make people spend their money.
I mean, how does this guy live without a semi hollow...ooh, and a selmer style?
For semi-hollows I have a Gibson ES-137, a Godin Montreal, and an Ibanez AS103. For "Selmer", I have a Gitane Lulo Reinhardt...
I actually mis-spoke in my original post, two of the Ibanez Artcores are going. As for the Loars - the 350 was extremely inexpensive and the 650 is actually pretty cool. I really don't think I'd be able to get value back for selling them.
Still undecided, but I am leaning toward keeping the CWII.
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Originally Posted by pingu
Absolutely outstanding. It is the second best guitar that I own after the 175. I was very lucky to snag a new one for $1600 shipped. The solid spruce and maple really does make a huge difference. I would buy another in a heartbeat. Of course, that's what got me into this mess!
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I love my CWII. Granted, I don't have nearly the collection that you do. It's certainly my jazziest looking guitar. I think my Tele sounds a little better though.
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I got the Eastman tonight and am pleasantly surprised. It definitely has been around the block a few times and has a BUNCH of scratches and dings, but overall looks better than the auction photos and plays and sounds great. Originally Posted by ESCC
I'll start a new thread with photos and a review this weekend, after I've cleaned the heck out of it and put new strings on.
BTW- I absolutely BABY my guitars. I can understand people who treat them more like tools, but I don't understand people who beat on them. This guitar was probably around $2500 new, and it looks like the original owner just didn't care about it. Just me maybe, but I don't get it!
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So apparently its a great e-bay find/deal, congratulations.
I'm in the beginning phases of considering an acoustic archtop -
you own both a Godin 5th Ave. and a Gretsch G400 - is the Gretsch worth $1,000 more?
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Tough question. I picked-up mine gently used on ebay for exactly a grand and it was definitely worth it. Solid top and larger body. Much louder. Better looking (IMHO). They are very nice guitars, but so are 5th Aves.
So if you plan to play out or play it a lot, I would say yes. If is just to poke around and play at home, probably not, unless you can get a good deal like I did.
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So are you saying $1500? Probably not. I've seen them for around $1000 and i think they are worth it for that price. I've played the cutaway and non-cutaway G400. Non-cutaway has sweeter sound, and is cheaper. For $1000, the Loar LH-700 blows both out of the water. Originally Posted by ESCC
The 5th Avenue is on par with the Gretsch G100 in features and price but i prefer the G100 in sound and feel.
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I'm looking at this guitar, why can't they make a model with ONE neck pick up, I want a cutaway!
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That would be the 5th Ave Jazz: Originally Posted by nakim55
But note it's a floating pickup, not a P-90, and this model is more expensive than the earlier ones.
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I think I like the cheaper "kingpin" non-cutaway with the p-90 better, than the looks of their new floater jazz model. Well, I dig Charlie Christian, Grant Green & Wes, (and actually some later players like, early John McLaughlin, James Emery, Sonny Sharrock, hell, there are some young kids on u-tube burning the guitar up). I actually played drums for 40 years, but lost my house 5 years ago, and have tinnitus, so I am going to sell my gretsch drums. I always dug guitar, so I am going to go at it as a hobby. I just got a nurse gig, 2 years ago, which pays decent (so, I am not worried about getting to a gigging level any time soon). I just want to study guitar as a hobby, for my own pleasure. I am really digging on Grant Green's trio stuff. I just want a guitar with some kind of versatility. I got a artcore AF-84E non-cutaway, but I can't really bend on that, and I want a cutaway, so I have more range on the neck. The AF 84 has what I consider to be, crap tuners, a crappy pick up, and needs a bone nut, I just don't know if it is worth putting money into? Actually, I don't know if I care about BB King & bending, I am really diggin on Wes & Green. I composed music on vibes, went to Berklee in the 70's & the creative music studio (where Ambercrombie, James Emery, Jack DeJohnette, Dave Holland, etc, taught). So, I know a little bit about jazz, and theory, although, I will admit, learning this guitar neck, is a job in itself!! I understand the tabliture stuff, and it helps get you to some stuff quick, but the downside is, you don't really know what your doing (note/ neck wise), not practical in the real world! Any way, I am plugging away at it, and it keeps me off the streets! I am 56. Peace
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