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    Quote Originally Posted by 58flame View Post
    New finish looks really nice.

    Another $200-$250 and a trip for that tailpiece to Advanced Plating and it'll look even better. Brian is who you want to talk to.
    Agreed buddy

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    I'm all in for professional refinishes. However, what's great for your relatively new and ding-free Borys would look odd on a 70-year old war-horse, which doesn't need a Murphy Lab treatment to proclaim the age. What interests me is the use of acrylic lacquer. To me it's Nitro 2.0, similar in many respects but superior in others. Why isn't it more popular?

    Is this a laminated or carved guitar? (Sorry if this was mentioned.) Was there a noticeable difference in sound?

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    As long as Vinny is happy I am happy for him. It looks great! It really does!

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    It’s a laminate and it sounds fantastic. It’s also very light and a cannon for a plywood guitar.
    As far as a laminate I don’t think you can beat a Borys for its lively tone. Very D’Aquisto like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gitterbug View Post
    I'm all in for professional refinishes. However, what's great for your relatively new and ding-free Borys would look odd on a 70-year old war-horse, which doesn't need a Murphy Lab treatment to proclaim the age. What interests me is the use of acrylic lacquer. To me it's Nitro 2.0, similar in many respects but superior in others. Why isn't it more popular?

    Is this a laminated or carved guitar? (Sorry if this was mentioned.) Was there a noticeable difference in sound?
    As it happens, Borys finishes his guitars with acrylic lacquer. It's kind of an unusual finish, it's matte, and seems to have a few texture lines in it. But I don't think he distresses or "Murphy-izes" it. It doesn't bother me, but I can see where some would want the gloss finish, especially after Vinnie's travails in shipping. I really like how his came out.

    Regarding acrylic lacquer, Roger told me that it can still lacquer check, but not as easily as nitro.

    What is it about acrylic lacquer do you like so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k View Post
    It’s a laminate and it sounds fantastic. It’s also very light and a cannon for a plywood guitar.
    As far as a laminate I don’t think you can beat a Borys for its lively tone. Very D’Aquisto like.
    Mine is a B160, so a 25" scale. It can sound fat like a 175 almost, but can also have a bit more string sound dialed in, which I like.

    I really like the way it plays and sounds.

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    Old and new both look great to me.
    Different subject but I thought refinishing an archtop would cost closer to $2000.

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    Acrylic lacquer has more gloss than nitro. Holst also built me a guitar and also used acrylic lacquer and was very glossy also.
    I think Roger who also uses acrylic lacquer does a super thin finish coat that sucks into the grain. It looks like he wet sands but doesn’t buff out the finish. What looks like checking I believe it’s the grain raising through the very thin finish.

    He does build a very unique archtop that has a tone like no other.
    Now I love my Borys and just ordered a B165. I will do the same with that one with a Wilkins refin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniMerckx.22 View Post
    Yeah it's sort of like having a gorgeous girlfriend and talking her into heavy drinking, smoking, heroin, beach sunworshiping and little sleep so she looks 76 when she's 28.
    One of the best posts ever!

    Quote Originally Posted by 58flame View Post
    New finish looks really nice.
    Another $200-$250 and a trip for that tailpiece to Advanced Plating and it'll look even better. Brian is who you want to talk to.
    Oh no, I was waiting for that one…

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k View Post
    I don’t think anyone would buy a new Murphy Lab car all scratched up with dings.
    But, people buy the craziest things, E-Type Rat Rod for £25,000.......................................... ..............................................

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k View Post
    Acrylic lacquer has more gloss than nitro. Holst also built me a guitar and also used acrylic lacquer and was very glossy also.
    I think Roger who also uses acrylic lacquer does a super thin finish coat that sucks into the grain. It looks like he wet sands but doesn’t buff out the finish. What looks like checking I believe it’s the grain raising through the very thin finish.

    He does build a very unique archtop that has a tone like no other.
    Now I love my Borys and just ordered a B165. I will do the same with that one with a Wilkins refin.
    Why not have it sent to him w just a sealer coat and skip the refin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wintermoon View Post
    Why not have it sent to him w just a sealer coat and skip the refin.
    That makes a ton of good sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluejaybill View Post
    ...But I don't think he distresses or "Murphy-izes" it. It doesn't bother me...
    Me either.

    Yeah Bill, I feel the same. I feel he's doing less, not more. No extra "murphy steps'. The tail-piece happens to look like it does from the brazing. He just doesn't polish it. Maybe he gives it a bit of all-over flame when he's joining the pieces.

    I don't know why the finish looks like it does. Maybe fewer coats, not much scuffing/levelling between, and no buffing after? Or maybe just less of everything? Mine's like that but to a far lesser extent. I have to look really hard for it.

    I think it's safe to say he's not following a trend started elsewhere. I think it's a mistake to look at his work through a G. lens and say Murphy. It's something else. And he's probably been making these as long or longer than anyone's been working at Gibson. Certainly longer than there's been a Murphy Lab.

    I'm happy Vin finally got satisfaction with a Borys. Bone-headed determination wins the day! :)

    Mine's from the same batch as his first one. It was recently out for fret levelling, and man did I miss it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBoden View Post
    But, people buy the craziest things, E-Type Rat Rod for £25,000.......................................... ..............................................
    My dad had a beautiful metallic Blue E type. And occasionally I’d drive it to high school. True story. Those were the innocent days of 1971!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop View Post
    My dad had a beautiful metallic Blue E type. And occasionally I’d drive it to high school. True story. Those were the innocent days of 1971!
    I have one of those, though I don’t drive it

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