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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected]
    Hey Dawg, great guitar, everything you want but man o man, hats off to your wife for getting you to GC!!!
    I told her what you said and this is her response: She says it was the stupidest thing she's ever done in her life (I disagree) but she's definitely an angel of mercy! Like a farmer, a bluesman needs a wife with a good job in town! LOL

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    Dawg - open a sideways photo in Paint. You can rotate and also resize it :-)

    Bought a Gibson ES-335-335-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragman1
    Dawg - open a sideways photo in Paint. You can rotate and also resize it :-)

    Bought a Gibson ES-335-335-jpg
    Someone else did that for me in the thread down the first page but thanks ragman!!!

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    What do you think of the T-Type pickups? Curious to get you take before sharing mine.

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    Dawgbone gave a description a few posts back

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillsJazz
    What do you think of the T-Type pickups? Curious to get you take before sharing mine.
    Post #23. How do you like them?

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    Ever since I saw Bill Pitman holding one of these in an interview about the Wrecking Crew I wanted one. For the first time I prefer the simpler appointments of the Dot model. For me it's the color that really makes it.

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    Not sure what Post #23 refers to.

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    T-tops. Versus 57 Classics vs Seth Lover pickups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Mack
    T-tops. Versus 57 Classics vs Seth Lover pickups.
    The T-Types walk all over the Seths, at least, in a semi hollow. JMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgBone
    Thru providence or just dumb luck or maybe both. I havent been to a legitimate guitar shop since 2012. My wife suggested we go down to GC. I tried out a ton of stuff, all the ES' they had. Most of them were pretty dull including a 5k trini lopez. Long story short I found a cherry red 335 that just barked. $3499, a bridge too far! I asked the guy at the counter if he could chop some bucks off since it was on the rack. He took it to the front and scanned it. "This is on clearance." So, I somehow just walked away with the lowest cost gloss red lacquer 335 in the world last night, new or used. INSANELY good price. Still in shock! Gotta let a couple guitars go to fund it but 100% worth it! Not sure why my camera throws the pictures sideways, oh well, gotta new 335!Attachment 126236
    oi give me my guitar back

    It eats gigs for breakfast


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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgBone
    The T-Types walk all over the Seths, at least, in a semi hollow. JMHO.
    T-Types are my least favorite. Way too bright and compressed. No amount of EQ-ing makes them work for me. Had them swapped out for Classic 57s immediately. Seth Lovers are good but not quite as good as classic 57s. Have one in a Tele.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillsJazz
    T-Types are my least favorite. Way too bright and compressed. No amount of EQ-ing makes them work for me. Had them swapped out for Classic 57s immediately. Seth Lovers are good but not quite as good as classic 57s. Have one in a Tele.
    What amp are you using? They are definitely brighter but unlike the Seths the high end isn't overly strident, probably because they compress more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgBone
    What amp are you using? They are definitely brighter but unlike the Seths the high end isn't overly strident, probably because they compress more.
    Deluxe Reverb and Princeton Reverb. The 57s are perfect. The T-Types not so much.

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    I bought a 2021 cherry 335 dot like the one posted here, I tried to like the Calibrated T-Tops, but ended up changing them for classic 57's, they were just too bright for my personal taste. I did like them with overdrive I must say.
    This guitar has become my main axe, love the midrange and overall tone... I have to watch the way I play it, if I rest my forearm on the top side I sometimes get shoulder pain, I've found that lowering the strap makes things work better. I had an Ibanez JSM10 before, I preferred the ergonomics, but the tone on the 335 is just fantastic! What string gauges do players use here? I'm currently using 10's but I also liked 11's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillsJazz
    Deluxe Reverb and Princeton Reverb. The 57s are perfect. The T-Types not so much.
    I guess if you are after a darker jazz tone I can see this. I am using a Twin with the treble (and hopefully amp) cranked and an overdrive pedal. I was skeptical at first, as I noticed additional treble bite all around, but I found they worked quite well. I definitely prefer the T-Type neck to the 57 neck, no question. I was never fully satisfied with the 57 in the neck. It's good but tends to lack some clarity for leads.

    The verdict is still out for me on the T-Type bridge until I spend more time with it. The 57 is a great bridge pickup and seems more meaty with a nice bite. I will say in the middle position the T-Types delivered a better overall BB King type tone. TBH I can live with T-Types, 490r/490t, or 57 classics. Gibson pickups always deliver though I've not tried Burstbuckers. Maybe a T-Type neck with a 57 classic bridge would be a winning combo. I have some footage to review before I make that determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronstuff
    I bought a 2021 cherry 335 dot like the one posted here, I tried to like the Calibrated T-Tops, but ended up changing them for classic 57's, they were just too bright for my personal taste. I did like them with overdrive I must say.
    This guitar has become my main axe, love the midrange and overall tone... I have to watch the way I play it, if I rest my forearm on the top side I sometimes get shoulder pain, I've found that lowering the strap makes things work better. I had an Ibanez JSM10 before, I preferred the ergonomics, but the tone on the 335 is just fantastic! What string gauges do players use here? I'm currently using 10's but I also liked 11's.
    For me the compression seems on the level of the 57 classics, which helped tame the brightness and keep it from getting too strident like the Seths were. I can roll the tone back a couple notches vs 57's and no sweat, which never really helped using Seths.

    10.5 11.5 15 24 32 42 are my gauges right now. I enjoyed the 10-46 roundwounds it came with enough that I decided to run roundwounds for a while and see how things work out. Only problem is Juststrings.com has retired after 30 years and my string cost just went up and I need to find someplace I can buy a dozen 10's at a time...

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    I use D'addario 10's. Strings by Mail is a good source - shipping cost is low, and I haven't paid any sales tax to NYC - yet!
    Also Amazon for quick delivery, and Musician's Friend of the box of 10 sets.

    I find the Bridge T-top bright as well. To compensate, I spun the p/up around so the screw posts are farther away from the bridge.
    It helped to combat the brightness: Tone control down to 5 or 6, p/up raised as high as I can get it, and a boost pedal for some OD helps to smooth (compress) it out some. I mainly rely on the neck p/up though, and lately, I've been getting some great tone.
    I've had the guitar for almost a year, playing it often, and it seems to have opened up some, and I am enjoying the heavy Tailpiece I got out of my parts drawer / in place of the BRIGHT aluminum TP that came stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgBone
    I guess if you are after a darker jazz tone I can see this. I am using a Twin with the treble (and hopefully amp) cranked and an overdrive pedal. I was skeptical at first, as I noticed additional treble bite all around, but I found they worked quite well. I definitely prefer the T-Type neck to the 57 neck, no question. I was never fully satisfied with the 57 in the neck. It's good but tends to lack some clarity for leads.

    The verdict is still out for me on the T-Type bridge until I spend more time with it. The 57 is a great bridge pickup and seems more meaty with a nice bite. I will say in the middle position the T-Types delivered a better overall BB King type tone. TBH I can live with T-Types, 490r/490t, or 57 classics. Gibson pickups always deliver though I've not tried Burstbuckers. Maybe a T-Type neck with a 57 classic bridge would be a winning combo. I have some footage to review before I make that determination.
    I play mostly jazz so the 57s are a perfect fit. The T-Types are probably fine with rock but not jazz. Way too bright. I find that the 57s are more versatile as well. Still wondering why Gibson made the change to T-Types. I guess the Classic 57s were added the the same ash heap as the archtops.

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    If money were a concern (almost always is), the adornments on a guitar could be abandoned. That would leave two guitars that could cover the large majority of the field: the ES-330 and the ES-335.

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    Dawg, I like how you've become a helpful and enthusiastic member of this community... your enthusiasm at your new discovery is infectious

    Interesting development regarding T-tops now a thing. I have stock T-tops in my '73 LP Custom (purchased new!) and, if it weren't my oldest family member and therefore reluctantly exempt from additional modifications (although I did have it coil tapped with phase switch added in the 80's) I would put some Lollar Imperials in the thing... the T Tops have always been excessively shrill... can't imagine them in a semi or arch top, but guitar/ pickup chemistry is a strange adventure and often surprising.

    Have fun, share some recordings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebdox
    Dawg, I like how you've become a helpful and enthusiastic member of this community... your enthusiasm at your new discovery is infectious

    Interesting development regarding T-tops now a thing. I have stock T-tops in my '73 LP Custom (purchased new!) and, if it weren't my oldest family member and therefore reluctantly exempt from additional modifications (although I did have it coil tapped with phase switch added in the 80's) I would put some Lollar Imperials in the thing... the T Tops have always been excessively shrill... can't imagine them in a semi or arch top, but guitar/ pickup chemistry is a strange adventure and often surprising.

    Have fun, share some recordings!
    Thanks, I've tried to be more helpful here and less of a curmudgeon but I don't believe in such a thing as community. Maybe I'm wrong but I've been an outsider all my life and still am. No plans on changing that, and, it wouldn't work anyways, lol.

    I've never tried the Imperials but I've tried, and own, some Lollar products and they are always outstanding. Even Biltoft recommended the Lollar book. That said I still find myself mostly gravitating to Gibson pickups for regular gigs. They just sound good. I may throw a Lollar DB into the bridge of my Edwards, and replace the T-Type bridge with a 57 classic that I remove from the Edwards but I plan on doing at least 25 more gigs with the new 335 before I would consider such a move. I've found it's best not to make too many changes to a gigging rig too rapidly that way you can fully understand what changes are happening, and how they will work out long term.

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    I have the same guitar as Dawg Bone with the same era T-tops.

    If I relied more on the bridge p/up (mostly a neck player) I would look for something fatter/warmer. I have a 57 Classic in my spares and I have read with interest, everyone's favorable review of them, in all types of guitars from arch tops to LP's and Teles.
    But I also have some 1981 Gibson Shaw p/ups. I removed them from my L5 to get rid of their Mid forward voices from that guitar in an effort to "sweeten" the tone.

    Do you guys have experience with Shaws in a 335?
    I think they are favored in Les Pauls. How do they compare to the 57's? It's a big step to switch out a 335 so I want to inquire first. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgBone
    Thanks, I've tried to be more helpful here and less of a curmudgeon but I don't believe in such a thing as community. Maybe I'm wrong but I've been an outsider all my life and still am. No plans on changing that, and, it wouldn't work anyways.
    Well, you're here! Community doesn't imply agreement to me, just a willingness to help like minded people have a better life, which is what you are doing. I'm not much of a joiner, either, but giving back is a privilege, as is kindness and sharing. Just wanted to acknowledge your change in tone. Plus, curmudgeons are important... some of my best friends are highly skilled curmudgeons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Mack
    I have the same guitar as Dawg Bone with the same era T-tops.

    If I relied more on the bridge p/up (mostly a neck player) I would look for something fatter/warmer. I have a 57 Classic in my spares and I have read with interest, everyone's favorable review of them, in all types of guitars from arch tops to LP's and Teles.
    But I also have some 1981 Gibson Shaw p/ups. I removed them from my L5 to get rid of their Mid forward voices from that guitar in an effort to "sweeten" the tone.

    Do you guys have experience with Shaws in a 335?
    I think they are favored in Les Pauls. How do they compare to the 57's? It's a big step to switch out a 335 so I want to inquire first. Thanks
    No experience with the Shaws other than regretting not buying a set for $200 on craigslist a few years ago. Those are fetching some pretty serious dough these days.

    As for the T-Type bridge in the newer ES' I'll put some more play time into it and make a verdict. I raised it up from the factory setting but I'm still not quite high enough so I gotta raise it some more. Proximity can have a big effect on how a pickup reacts. It might wind up giving me some more muscle/beef a bit closer to the strings. It's down pretty far yet. I'll keep you posted.