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    I'm interested in a Tone Block 202, but I wonder whether I should hold off for an update or new release.

    The TB202 was released over 5 years ago, and Quilter has updated other models around that time (or faster).

    Also, in January 2023, Quilter acquired Neunaber Audio, creator of some really excellent reverbs. As a reverb fanatic, I would love to see an updated TB202 with spot-on Blackface and Tweed sounds, but with reverb that is actually excellent and not just "good enough."

    I reeeeaaally wish someone would make a 1-for-1 analog solid state FET recreation of a 6L6 blackface circuit (Twin, BF Bassman, Super) with an internal Flint reverb and tremolo (mini-switches on the back to choose spring/plate/hall reverb and bias/opto tremolo), all in one 3-pound box. Call it the Gemini (twin). Would sell 200 million units.

    Anyone think an update could be coming soon?

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    You could email them and likely Pat Quilter will reply personally and truthfully.

    My buddy had a problem with a pedal and he called for a schematic, Pat walked him through fixing it over the phone for 2 hours. He's a good guy.

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    I'd like to see a new Superblock with some new models - maybe vintage Gibson amp recreations

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    They have a new bass amp coming out. Haven't heard anything about guitar amps though.

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    Yep, count me in as one of those who would love to see some new models from them.

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    If quilter came out with a new head featuring the neunaber wet reverb algorithm and an improved tone stack I’d definitely get it. I’m sure it will come out eventually but I don’t see them prioritizing anew investment just yet. Sales of their prior gen (super block and Mach 3 and 202) seem to be selling just fine. Once demand for those slows I can see them making use of their new tech.

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    As an owner of the 202 Tone Block as well as a couple of Aviator Combos 1x8”&1x12” I highly recommend the 202TB You will be extremely impressed by its portability,Huge Headroom,and Great Clean Tones, and never worry about servicing!

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    I love my first generation Aviator Twin Ten, especially with Jensen Tornado neo speakers. The stock Celestion G10 speakers had a mid range honk. The Jensens are so much smoother and sweeter sounding. I wish it had tremolo.

    I'm still tempted by the Aviator Mach 3, although I have no need for two channels and most of the amp voicings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by entresz
    ...I'm still tempted by the Aviator Mach 3, although I have no need for two channels and most of the amp voicings.
    You and me both brother! I got the TB202 exactly 5 years ago tomorrow. (just checked the receipt). I've said it many times around here but I still love this amp.

    It does one thing that I'm not sure the newer or soon-to-be-released ones do/will. I PM'd with with our old friend JazzKritter, rest his sweet soul, who also had one. He told me he asked Pat what would get him closest to his old Walter Woods. He was told TB202 set to FRFR. I didn't like the idea somehow, but I eventually did try it and after some twiddling it's now my voice for archtops. I do add some Gain and Limiter, which seems kinda 'wrong' somehow? Sort of... not what FRFR is about... or something?

    I've never played a Walter Woods, and it's a few decades since I played Polytone so I have no idea if what I'm doing resembles them in any way. All I can say is it makes me very, very happy.

    So we shall see what Pat sends up next. I'm sure it'll be interesting, but if it doesn't have FRFR I'm not sure I'd take the leap. I guess I can always keep the old one. I don't seem to be able to sell gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanAllen
    You could email them and likely Pat Quilter will reply personally and truthfully.
    I wrote them with a Mach II question, and he told me right up front that they were developing a Mach III.

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    Pat hasn't responded to my recent messages, so it looks like he thinks my role is parasitic rather than symbiotic. Yet I was able to drum up the SuperBlock among the JGO community before the rollout, and there must be a triple-digit number of SuperBlock-Metro combinations. Some potential buyers go amp first, others cab first. I think the 101R (reference to ongoing thread about it) is first in line for a replacement. I wouldn't necessarily ask for a variety of voicings. The plethora of stomp boxes in use means the amp's own overdrive channel and voicings are like a hotel's restaurant: No matter how good, guests venture into the night for taste adventures.

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    I traded up from a Mach II head to a Mach III combo earlier this year.

    I have used the Mach III on many gigs in many venues. Other than having a blutooth capability like the Henriksens, it is a pretty damn good toolbox for amplification. I am not sure what could be made better. It is light (21 pounds), loud (200 watts), it has six different sounding voices (I seem to like the Fender Tweed voicing with a Gibson archtop as it delivers the tone I hear on those old 50's and 60's jazz records). I suppose the reverb could be better, but the reverb it has works just fine for my needs and the overdrive is not as good as the overdrive I can get from my OCD pedal, but I felt that way about the overdrive on a Mesa Mark V that I had.

    Even if they did release a Mach IIII, I am pretty sure that I would not trade up. I bet a lot of Mach III owners feel the same way.

    Pedal amps? I have not tried any Quilters. I have a Milkman The Amp 100 (Thanks for the heads up on that Juan!) which probably will fill that need for the rest of my days.

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    I recently bought a Superblock (US). Plenty loud in my large 12" 8 ohm cabinet. It is less powerful in my 4 ohm twin-8 because the amp prefers 8 ohms, as they describe in the manual. But the XLR send includes the reverb and any tone settings, including the "cabinet simulator", or without the extra "speaker" EQ. Sending that to my Elf allows further tone shaping to match my twin-8 cab's response, while enjoying the amp modeling EQ from the Superblock. The overdrive is very useful and musical.

    When not used as a 25-watt amp, it will run from a typical pedal AC adapter.

    it is nearly a big enough tone when I use my single-8 , 8 ohm cabinet. I think it would be fine in a low-volume setting, but it's a good pedal in conjunction with a more powerful amp.

    Given I am using a solid-body electric 10-string mandolin, my needs are non-standard. The Superblock handles them excellently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger
    Even if they did release a Mach IIII, I am pretty sure that I would not trade up.
    Maybe Mach “IV?” ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stringswinger
    I traded up from a Mach II head to a Mach III combo earlier this year.

    I have used the Mach III on many gigs in many venues. Other than having a blutooth capability like the Henriksens, it is a pretty damn good toolbox for amplification. I am not sure what could be made better.
    I upgraded from an original MP to a Mach II because it included some changes that fit my need. The M III really tempted me because the versatile control layout is very similar to my beloved Pearce. But I don’t need so much flexibility anymore, so the M II is plenty for now.

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    I have a Superblock US and I like it a lot. I pair it with a 1x10" or a 1x12" cabinet. (I'm very tempted to pick up a Toob while I still can). Yes, it's a little bright and I could use a bit more headroom, but it does a very respectable imitation of my trusty ol' Princeton Reverb. Right now, I'm running it with a hemp speaker, which tames the brightness and then some (I actually have to turn the treble way UP).

    I had a Mach III combo, but I didn't like it. I know it's "supposed" to sound the same as the Superblock, but in my experience, it didn't. I blame the speaker. But Quilter has limited options there, as there aren't many single guitar speakers that can handle over 200 watts.

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    The best, and loudest, sound I've gotten from the SBUS is through my Vibrolux Reverb used as a cab. The amp is dead, but the sound through the speakers in the cabinet is wonderful. The combination of two 10" Cannabis Rex speakers at 4 ohms in an open-back cabinet is really good. It will likely never go out the door because of the weight and size, but it's great for home use. What I take out the door is a Toob Metro BG+, and while it doesn't have the volume or exact tone of the VR (duh!) it's good enough, and easy to carry. The SBUS is the only Quilter I've ever tried that sounds good to me. I don't expect to need another amp in this life.

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    I'm thinking of trying the SBUS with a 6" of some sort for an ultra portable rig. The Mr Watts clone is only 4? and I think the SBUS is better with 8?. I listened to Jim Soloway's demos and thought the amp sounded very nice with his 10" hemp cone. Anyone know of a mellow-ish 6" in the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skip Ellis
    I'm thinking of trying the SBUS with a 6" of some sort for an ultra portable rig. The Mr Watts clone is only 4? and I think the SBUS is better with 8?. I listened to Jim Soloway's demos and thought the amp sounded very nice with his 10" hemp cone. Anyone know of a mellow-ish 6" in the world?
    For home and low volume gigs, you can’t do much better than a Toob Metro BG+ (6.5”) with a SBUS Velcro’ed to the little platform on the top.