2008 Gibson LeGrand Natural FS in Toronto

**tomvwash** · 08-18-2025, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by skykomishone

That is a beautiful guitar!
Enjoy it heartily!
Looking forward to hearing more about it.

The LG arrived last week, no tariffs, no duties, or whatever they're called--but that might be like waiting for a city of Chicago traffic ticket from the street cameras--all over the city-wait, did that just flash for me? It's a beauty, too lazy to take pictures at the moment. It has a low end to it, just enough boom and beyond mild checking on the top--not a lot, it's mint. Is checking an issue, btw? Only seen in a particular light... I need to change the strings soon, but still sounds tip top. Thank you again, Keith! Great Canadian retailer, shipped and arrived pronto.

Tom

**58flame** · 08-19-2025, 07:38 AM

You bought a $9000 guitar with finish checks and you're asking us if it matters?

It only matters if you'd rather have $9k than a guitar with a cracked finish.

**tomvwash** · 08-19-2025, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by 58flame

You bought a $9000 guitar with finish checks and you're asking us if it matters?

It only matters if you'd rather have $9k than a guitar with a cracked finish.

It's 3 lines up the treble side bout of the guitar and is in otherwise pristine condition. My reading on finish checking is that it's not that serious. Brian at The 12th Fret also disclosed the checking over the phone before I purchased it. Your perception of it is that I need to return it or sell the guitar because it's damaged? And yes, I posed the checking question to others here because your blunt assessment on it isn't the last word.

**58flame** · 08-19-2025, 09:40 AM

Blunt or not, it's accurate. Checking has no effect on sound. It's cosmetic, and it's your guitar. Only you can decide if it matters or not.

**tomvwash** · 08-19-2025, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by 58flame

Blunt or not, it's accurate. Checking has no effect on sound. It's cosmetic, and it's your guitar. Only you can decide if it matters or not.

Agreed. Faulty cosmetics get the best of me after awhile, especially on a pricey instrument, and I sell. Ive been on this theme before with rim discoloration on other pricey guitars. Tiresome, yes, and was on the lookout for a blonde Legrand for a long time. Not sure what Chicago Fretworks can add here, but maybe worth a look today with them-cosmetics, cosmetics, cosmetics. Only the owner can decide.

**Stringswinger** · 08-19-2025, 12:37 PM

Finish checking can sometimes be repaired.

**tomvwash** · 08-19-2025, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Stringswinger

Finish checking can sometimes be repaired.

Chicago Fret Works looked at it today and had a good laugh. What's the problem here? Go home and enjoy the guitar...

**floatingpickup** · 08-19-2025, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by tomvwash

Chicago Fret Works looked at it today and had a good laugh. What's the problem here? Go home and enjoy the guitar...

I wouldn’t worry about a bit of finish checking. Some of my best guitars have plenty of checking.
Keith

**skykomishone** · 08-19-2025, 07:27 PM

I have it too!
Can you get it from your guitars?

**2bornot2bop** · 08-20-2025, 04:33 PM

I remember when even I used to obsess over finish checking. This place cured me of that.

**Gitfiddler** · 08-20-2025, 05:04 PM

Not a problem for me either. I have way more finish checking than any of my guitars.

**2bornot2bop** · 08-22-2025, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Gitfiddler

Not a problem for me either. I have way more finish checking than any of my guitars.

Mic drop comment!

**trailmixer** · 09-04-2025, 04:15 PM

This was purchased and put up by a flipper on Reverb:
Just a moment...

9200 CAD to 9800 USD

**tomvwash** · 09-04-2025, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by trailmixer

This was purchased and put up by a flipper on Reverb:
Just a moment...

9200 CAD to 9800 USD

Who are you, guitar resale ICE patrol? Why does it matter to you? It's my guitar, and if I were to sell it--I'm not sure that I want to sell it-I will lose $500, at least.

Let me know if you need the sales receipt. Sheesh.

**pawlowski6132** · 09-04-2025, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by tomvwash

Who are you, guitar resale ICE patrol? Why does it matter to you? It's my guitar, and if I were to sell it--I'm not sure that I want to sell it-I will lose $500, at least.

Let me know if you need the sales receipt. Sheesh.

What are you talking about? Is that your guitar listed on reverb or not??

**trailmixer** · 09-04-2025, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by tomvwash

Who are you, guitar resale ICE patrol? Why does it matter to you? It's my guitar, and if I were to sell it--I'm not sure that I want to sell it-I will lose $500, at least.

Let me know if you need the sales receipt. Sheesh.

Sorry it didn't work out for you and good luck with the sale

**pawlowski6132** · 09-04-2025, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by trailmixer

This was purchased and put up by a flipper on Reverb:
Just a moment...

9200 CAD to 9800 USD

seems a little under-handed or, insincere.

**tomvwash** · 09-04-2025, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by pawlowski6132

seems a little under-handed or, insincere.

I've read enough of your prior posts to know that you're an idiot. WTF are you anyway to judge me as underhanded or insincere. Get a cause, Pauly, and leave it alone. You have no context here, and no biz making dip shit conjectures on my buying habits.

**pawlowski6132** · 09-04-2025, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by tomvwash

I have a $5300 medical bill for my wife's fall last week. She has Parkinson's. With or without caretaking, I don't really have any biz purchasing pricey archtops. But I do because I love guitars. It wont be the first time that I have purchased a guitar and sold it. Guilty.

I've read enough of your prior posts to know that you're an idiot. WTF are you anyway to judge me as underhanded or insincere. Get a cause, Pauly, and leave it alone. You have no context here, and no biz making dip shit conjectures on my buying habits.

You're funny.

**floatingpickup** · 09-04-2025, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by tomvwash

I've read enough of your prior posts to know that you're an idiot. WTF are you anyway to judge me as underhanded or insincere. Get a cause, Pauly, and leave it alone. You have no context here, and no biz making dip shit conjectures on my buying habits.

I’m the OP that posted the PSA about this guitar when it was for sale at a respected shop in Toronto. It was never listed for $9200 CDN, as incorrectly stated by others in this thread. I have purchased a guitar from Tom and you couldn’t find a more honest and fair person to deal with. He is a true gentleman and if he is thinking of letting the guitar go for close to what he has in it, that’s his choice. I feel bad that the guitar didn’t meet his expectations, but it upsets me even more to see others criticize him for making this decision.
Keith

**tomvwash** · 09-04-2025, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by floatingpickup

I’m the OP that posted the PSA about this guitar when it was for sale at a respected shop in Toronto. It was never listed for $9200 CDN, as incorrectly stated by others in this thread. I have purchased a guitar from Tom and you couldn’t find a more honest and fair person to deal with. He is a true gentleman and if he is thinking of letting the guitar go for close to what he has in it, that’s his choice. I feel bad that the guitar didn’t meet his expectations, but it upsets me even more to see others criticize him for making this decision.
Keith

Thank you, Keith. I appreciate that comment, a lot. The guitar is absolutely fine. I love the guitar, and it exceeded all expectations, especially after the phone conversation with Brian in the store, and I am glad you advertised it. Things happen at home, sometimes, and I start looking for dollars. I would just as soon keep it, and I hope that I can. It's no one's biz, of course-incredible that others, really just one, insist on making it his business as something criminal-underhanded, even. Wow. So ridiculous, and I should not have engaged with such an asinine remark. The idea of flipping an archtop in this market today. I mean, really!

**deacon Mark** · 09-04-2025, 07:59 PM

I know Tom and have talked with him many times. He is upstanding fellow, and it is a great guitar. I would be glad to take it off his hands but I have one already in Blond. Why someone buys a guitar and then sells it make sense to me. We cannot take any of our guitars with us in the next life so play one for a few days, weeks, months. or years and move.

If someone wants a Legrand just buy this one and get a great guitar at a respectable price.

**wintermoon** · 09-04-2025, 11:09 PM

Are people required to keep things they purchase for a certain amount of time before being allowed to sell them?
Even if he bought it and decided to flip it immediately for triple the price it's no one's biz but his.
Tom has been nothing but a model member here, owns the guitar legally and I'm pretty sure he can do w it what and when he wants w/out being questioned as to his motives.
unbelievable...

**tomvwash** · 09-05-2025, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by wintermoon

Are people required to keep things they purchase for a certain amount of time before being allowed to sell them?
Even if he bought it and decided to flip it immediately for triple the price it's no one's biz but his.
Tom has been nothing but a model member here, owns the guitar legally and I'm pretty sure he can do w it what and when he wants w/out being questioned as to his motives.
unbelievable...

Thank you, Winter. I realize we're here to educate, assist, comment, and contribute to the community, but sometimes the dipshit element deserves a calling out.

Yes, unbelievable.