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    Hello, I'm selling a Hoyer Model 4062 with case. Price is 2499 € plus shipping.

    See here:

    Hoyer Model 4062 absolute Raritat in Baden-Wurttemberg - Solden | kleinanzeigen.de



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    Selling my Hoyer model 4062. It's not hard to guess which guitar this was modelled on, only in contrast to the original it is made entirely of solid tonewood.


    Back made of solid maple; sides made of solid flamed maple and top made of good quality spruce, hand carved!.


    Tailpiece in two parts, with separately adjustable breaking angle of the strings at the ebony bridge.


    Pickups: DiMarzio Super Distortion at the bridge and DiMarzio Dual Sound (the splittable variant of the former) at the neck. Very clear and articulate, it can be used in a variety of ways, from jazz to rock, from clean to dirty. The pots are exchanged for new quality pots and the wiring is renewed.


    Very comfortable neck made of a mahogany that is no longer seen today, and an ebony fret. Frets in good condition, brass nut. The very rare oval inlays are made of real mother-of-pearl.


    Inside, a special sustain block made of two different tonewoods. The headstock is still in ‘open book’ form. Closed shaft tuners from a time when this still meant something.


    A brand new GEWA case is also included.


    Those who know Hoyer are aware that this model was only produced for a short time (in this luxury version only in 1980-1981) – the ‘lawsuit’ years were coming, and such a direct copy was prohibited, especially the iconic head shape. These were the best years at Hoyer; production quality at a very high level.


    I don't really want to sell the guitar because the sound and playability leave nothing to be desired. Unfortunately, due to my age, I have to play sitting down, especially when I play for longer, and unfortunately I can't find a comfortable position with this guitar - it's somehow too big for me (!) - size pretty much the same as its role model (ES355)


    I would also be happy to exchange it for an Ibanez AM 200 AV or AM 2000H or D'Angelico NYSS.


    Serious offers are welcome


    It can be tried out and taken with you on the premises; however, I will also ship at the request and explicitly at the risk of the buyer.


    This offer is a private sale of a used item. This means that the buyer has no right of withdrawal, nor can he return the item, nor is there a warranty, liability for material defects or guarantee.


    The description is given to the best of my knowledge and belief.


    The shipping fee includes insured shipping within Germany up to 500 euros (at the buyer's own risk).


    Shipping is done after payment in advance.


    Fully insured shipping with DHL is of course also possible for a corresponding surcharge.

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    I didn't have much reaction, so I realise it's not such sought-after guitar.

    I have decided to keep it, after I have tried several modern alternatives like Eastman T486 etc. The Hoyer is just another class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rojaros
    I didn't have much reaction, so I realise it's not such sought-after guitar.

    I have decided to keep it, after I have tried several modern alternatives like Eastman T486 etc. The Hoyer is just another class.

    A very good move!

    Anyone who studies human behavior will quickly notice that for both people and objects, such as this small-run Hoyer 4062, which surpasses its obvious role model in all important respects (except for easy availability, of course), the verdict of the vast majority must be: unseen - unloved.
    The opposite seen - loved is of course just as true: anyone who cheers for a gang of bullies, for example, will absorb their character and object attributes, consciously or unconsciously.


    How powerful the so-called soft power is, or how the principle of unseen - unloved applies, became clear to me again recently when I attended a jazz concert of a well-known quartet with an American band leader and an international line-up, who had just returned from a successful tour of Japan. An Austrian on the tenor saxophone, an Italian on the bass, and a younger German on the guitar, who would certainly be heralded as a shooting star elsewhere.
    This guitarist played on a newer Gibson ES-330. After the concert, I spoke to the bandleader and later talked with the guitarist. When I asked him why he is preferring a 330, he replied that Grant Green was his main role model. Somewhat surprised, I returned that in my opinion this was not immediately noticeable in his playing, either technically or sonically, as he came across as far more modernist, much more like John Scofield, for example.
    When I asked him whether he had ever heard of the guitar maker my avatar points to, he replied that he had heard this name mentioned in positive terms, but had never been able to play such an instrument. He would like to find out where this guitar maker lives. When I pointed out that he had died 50 years ago and that he had left behind not only full-hollow-body guitars but also some models loosely based on the style of the ES-330, which still set the standard for this genre today, he became very interested. The late hour of the night and his busy tour schedule prevented him from personally examining some guitars at my home.

    Financial dominance, cultural soft power and marketing with corresponding methods still largely determine the assessment of brands on the guitar market, used and new. However, this could well change in the next few years.

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    photos are deleted according to the site

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    I was able to view the photos on the link provided.

    I can understand how such a guitar may be regarded as under-appreciated . I have had one or two guitars which I considered as good or better than similar guitars by better known makers. Perhaps someone in your region may see this and realise its worth further investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishmuso
    I was able to view the photos on the link provided.

    I can understand how such a guitar may be regarded as under-appreciated . I have had one or two guitars which I considered as good or better than similar guitars by better known makers. Perhaps someone in your region may see this and realise its worth further investigation.
    Hoyer Model 4062 semi-hollow-deleted-jpg

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    For some reason I can still scroll through all 10 photos. Ah, the mysteries of the net!

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    It's typical on that platform that you can still scroll through the pics of deleted items however the first picture might imply the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluenote61
    It's typical on that platform that you can still scroll through the pics of deleted items however the first picture might imply the opposite.
    well, the point is the ad was deleted but it still appears here so we don't know if the item was sold or not since we haven't heard an update from the seller here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rojaros
    I have decided to keep it, after I have tried several modern alternatives like Eastman T486 etc. The Hoyer is just another class.
    The add was deleted, it does not show up anymore on the sales platform.
    However, as long as you have the direct link to the former add you will see it, but marked up as deleted.