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I get a lot of pit work on bass because I read bass clef pretty well. I really enjoy it. But I'm not much of a jazz jammer on bass. I just sold my 5-string and ordered one of these bad boys.
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12-15-2020 07:01 PM
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I was surprised to find out Chuck Israels (Bill Evans bass player) was a professional jazz guitarist before he switched to upright bass for a gig that came up.
Vinnie Burke was also a guitarist before he had an injury to his hand and had to switch to bass.
Nowadays, every guitarist in NY plays bass also. When they're really great bass players, I get kind of nervous about playing with them, wondering if they're really monster guitarists too, but when I let them play my guitar, they play like little prissy kids; playing little dainty chords, rubato. I want to rip my guitar out of their hands and say, 'Play with some balls, ya little pufter!'
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
I was doing a pretty easy show, 'Hairspray", and the bass player couldn't make it, so I played the bass part on guitar using my OC-3, and had a pisser.At some point I jammed my head off, because it was so dull just reading the notes.
But the more intricate shows can be a problem. They had to fire a pro bass player once, because he couldn't handle all the time changes on "Les Mis". If you get lost on bass, it throws everything off. I can tell in a split second if the bass is off, and I try to help them if I'm set up near them.
If a guitarist screws up, it's no big deal, but a bass player can cause a train wreck.
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Originally Posted by sgcim
As for 'kids playing guitar' I was in that situation when I first picked a strat I began to play some jazzy noodling and the big guy around 60 years old with huge worn worker's hands took the guitar from me and just tore it apart with some bluesy licks.. I really thought he would break the strings or the neck ...
But it worked... I think with these kind of guitars sometimes one just has to break in them so that they would really open up.
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Originally Posted by sgcim
Last edited by Woody Sound; 12-16-2020 at 08:19 PM.
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
The conductor started yelling at him, "Come on, man! Play the lick! Play the lick!"
The bass player said, "My amp won't work, can you play it for me?"
The conductor/pianist played it, and the bass player played it back perfectly.
The guy was a great bass player, but syncopated 16th note licks can be tough to sight read.
That six string bass reminds me of the six string banjo. I had a guy sub for me on Mame. He told me he played banjo, but he didn't tell me he had a six string banjo. Everyone in the orchestra cracked up when they saw him pull it out.
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
big fan of the bass vi...the squier bass vi's can use a shim in the neck pocket to get proper action...also doesn't hurt to get a set of flats!...fun instruments
cheers
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Originally Posted by Sam Sherry
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Bass VI..
Funny instrument - not sure I would get one but if I had chance I would not mind to play it
I do not see many videos where someone would play it as a bass... mostlly they play it like a baritone guitar. In some videos they do not even pick the lowest string at all)))
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By the way - what do you guys use to play it practicing at home?
i currently use soundcard I borrowed from a friend some long time ago - he does not use it - and play it directly through PC...
But occasionally I am thinking about getting a small amp like Fender Rumble 15 or 25... but i am just not sure if it makes sense...
I tried to plug it into small guitar amps - like Roland Cube 20 and Micro Cube I had at home... Fender Mustang I...
It always sounded dull and muddy on low strings... through PC it is much better and cleaner articulated.
But I am not sure taht small bass amp will be much better than small guitar amp...Last edited by Jonah; 12-18-2020 at 04:31 AM.
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Originally Posted by Jonah
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Originally Posted by delo054
Is it you playing?
I subscribed and a bit later will listen more of your beautiful work!
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Originally Posted by Jonah
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Originally Posted by Jonah
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Has Bireli Lagrene been mentioned yet?
He's taken to playing bass, very much in the style of his old friend/collaborator Jaco
I always wonder how the guitarist in the band/orchestra he plays must feel?
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When I was young, I acquired a very cheap bass for recording with my Tascam 4 track. I loved playing it, learnt an awful lot about how music works, and got a lot of paid work as a bassist
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I switched from guitar to upright bass. There's a lot that is helpful about having a background in guitar especially with regards to playing more across the strings (bassists tend to play up and down one string more than you would on guitar).
When I hear people people playing basslines on other instruments, the gaps I usually hear are:
- Not using open strings or their equivalents: bassists use open strings a lot to facilitate shifts and it's part of the sound and tradition to do this. Ron Carter is a master of this.
- Not using ornamentation: skips, ghost skips, triplets, and other devices. Ray Brown and Christian McBride are masters of this.
- Using too many scalar/chord tones instead of chromatic leading notes.
Upright bass is a very physical instrument and a lot of the sound and tradition comes from getting around the bass and also the limitations of the instrument influence musical choices way more than they might on piano or tenor, for example.
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Originally Posted by delo054
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Originally Posted by Woody Sound
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Originally Posted by pcsanwald
Maybe one day..
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Originally Posted by djg
Elias Prinz -- young talent from Munich
Yesterday, 10:24 PM in The Players