Chops?

[rpjazzguitar]

A hand surgeon at Stanford recommended CBD oil as a topical for my thumb. Apparently, there is some evidence in the medical literature that this can work.

When I asked what exact product to buy, he didn't know. He said to go to a reputable pharmacy and buy what they had. CVS had only one product, so I bought that one and tried it for long enough to convince myself it was useless.

Volataren may have worked on the distal finger joints but not on the basal thumb joint. My uneducated guess is that it penetrates deep enough for the former, but not the latter.

Previously I tried all the usual suspects, Glucosamine, Condroitan sp?, blackberry extract, fish oil and more. None helped. But, I had my Vitamin D level tested and it was low. I think a regular Vitamin D supplement is the one thing that has helped. It is possible to take too much, so this is something that should be measured with a blood test and monitored by a doctor. That is, even though it's OTC, a doctor should be involved, IMO.

[Hyppolyte Bergamotte]

Why beat around the bush ?
Jazz musicians play with huge strings who demolish their hand joints

[Mick-7]

NB Cannabis
THC is risky, especially in older adults. Expect cognitive impairment, sedation, dizziness, and a real increase in fall risk. Orthostatic hypotension can occur and is a deal-breaker in frail patients.

CBD is better tolerated, but it’s not harmless. It interacts with CYP3A4 and CYP2C19, potentially boosting the effects of antihypertensives and sedatives.

Product quality is inconsistent. Label claims are unreliable, and actual THC/CBD content may differ substantially.

HB (former physician)

I agree, I would not take it internally, but transdermal application to the affected area has been shown to be both safe and effective.

A hand surgeon at Stanford recommended CBD oil as a topical for my thumb. Apparently, there is some evidence in the medical literature that this can work.

Topical is not equivalent to Transdermal, the active ingredients need to be efficiently absorbed through the skin to be effective.

[rpjazzguitar]

I agree, I would not take it internally, but transdermal application to the affected area has been shown to be both safe and effective.



Topical is not equivalent to Transdermal, the active ingredients need to be efficiently absorbed through the skin to be effective.

Thank you for clarifying that

Adds yet another product selection issue

How do you know which to buy?

[Mick-7]

Thank you for clarifying that

Adds yet another product selection issue

How do you know which to buy?

To be clear, I have, fortunately, not had the need personally to use such a product, but as stated in my post here, the CBD transdermal product is being used by podiatrists so I'd trust their medical opinion re: suppliers. -- Tolcylen Transdermal CBG/CBD Cream

[brent.h]

Why beat around the bush ?
Jazz musicians play with huge strings who demolish their hand joints

One of the reasons I play with 10-46 gauge with a super low action on my Pacifica 112.

[Hyppolyte Bergamotte]

One of the reasons I play with 10-46 gauge with a super low action on my Pacifica 112.

finally,a voice of reason in this forum !
congratulations !

[GuyBoden]

One of the reasons I play with 10-46 gauge with a super low action on my Pacifica 112.

finally,a voice of reason in this forum !
congratulations !

To my hands, a low action height is more important than thinner string gauge. Because, it's the pressing down of the string that takes hand effort.

Edit: Also, you can have a lower action with thicker gauge strings than thinner gauge strings. Thinner strings oscillate more than thicker strings, so are more prone to buzzing, that's physics.

[Hyppolyte Bergamotte]

To my hands, a low action height is more important than thinner string gauge. Because, it's the pressing down of the string that takes hand effort.

Edit: Also, you can have a lower action with thicker gauge strings than thinner gauge strings. Thinner strings oscillate more than thicker strings, so are more prone to buzzing, that's physics.

I do not agree with you
In the musician’s clinic of one of my friends physician,how many time he saw after a few months an huge amélioration of pain in the joints of the musicians who played with lighter strings!
a fact is more valuable that a law of physic

[Mark Kleinhaut]

I do not agree with you
In the musician’s clinic of one of my friends physician,how many time he saw after a few months an huge amélioration of pain in the joints of the musicians who played with lighter strings!
a fact is more valuable that a law of physic

Would anyone care to explain then why bassists with their obvious string gauges aren’t all completely broken by the time they’re 31?

[Hyppolyte Bergamotte]

Would anyone care to explain then why bassists with their obvious string gauges aren’t all completely broken by the time they’re 31?

you have only to see the hand joints of an old double bassist..

tradition tradition..I play with huge strings because the jazz ancestors did play like this..( but they had no other choices or play banjo ! :-) )

[Mark Kleinhaut]

you have only to see the hand joints of an old double bassist..

tradition tradition..I play with huge strings because the jazz ancestors did play like this..( but they had no other choices or play banjo ! :-) )

Well, me and “tradition” have had a long dysfunctional relationship since way back. I play in .012 - .52 round wounds because they sound the way I want to sound; no more no less. I think the biggest cause of problems is shitty technique: hands flailing all over the place, wasted motion, too much pressure, weird contorted fingerings, posture, grip, etc etc.
That said, I’ve been a technique perfectionist my entire life thanks to my childhood association with one of the world’s foremost classical guitarists (who I would simply mimic not knowing any better), and I’m still having problems now at age 68. Naturally I blame it all on potato chips and eggplant.

[Christian Miller]

If you set up your guitar well, it shouldn’t be a huge issue to use heavier strings. I have heavy strings on some guitars but I am a bit of a wimp about set up. Heavy strings actually allow a lower action.

Small adjustments can make a big change in how stiff and heavy your guitar feels.

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