Jazz music and technical prowess of the performer

**Cunamara** · 08-04-2025, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by Doug B

Disagree. Any form of exercise, especially aerobic enhances your overall well being. As long as you don;'t over do it. guitar player or not. 10km per day is not enough to get much benefit from. Still better than nothing!

10 km (about 5.8 miles for those using that system) of bike riding a day is 10 km more exercise than about 75% of Americans get on any given day. Even that has benefits in cardiovascular and cognitive health. Hours of exercise every day are not required, small amount can be very helpful:

My father in law is 96 and still living at home. He walks around the block with his rolling walker every afternoon, rides his stationary bike 15 minutes a day, lifts 5# weights for 20-25 reps, cooks his own food, gets up and down stairs. Small bits of exercise across the day, but the benefit is obvious. Most people don't get to 96 and many of them are no longer ambulatory. He recovered from a heart attack a year ago and a previous one more than 40 years ago, got through treatment for cancer two years ago- because he has kept active and has some resilience as a result.

**lawson-stone** · 08-05-2025, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cunamara

10 km (about 5.8 miles for those using that system) of bike riding a day is 10 km more exercise than about 75% of Americans get on any given day. Even that has benefits in cardiovascular and cognitive health. Hours of exercise every day are not required, small amount can be very helpful:

My father in law is 96 and still living at home. He walks around the block with his rolling walker every afternoon, rides his stationary bike 15 minutes a day, lifts 5# weights for 20-25 reps, cooks his own food, gets up and down stairs. Small bits of exercise across the day, but the benefit is obvious. Most people don't get to 96 and many of them are no longer ambulatory. He recovered from a heart attack a year ago and a previous one more than 40 years ago, got through treatment for cancer two years ago- because he has kept active and has some resilience as a result.

I have a 97 year old father in law who disdained this kind of exercise back in his late 80's when he easily could have embraced it. He now is weak and unable to walk with a walker, and even then, almost can't make it to the bathroom and back. This kind of exercise is essential and so beneficial. Your father-in-law is to be congratulated, admired, and emulated!

**Peter C** · 08-05-2025, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cunamara

10 km (about 5.8 miles for those using that system) of bike riding a day is 10 km more exercise than about 75% of Americans get on any given day.

Right. Also, if I don't have time to go out for a longer bike ride, there's a steep 500 metre slope near where I live which I ride up and down about 10 times. I always try to stay in the highest possible gear for any given stretch, makes a big difference in terms of muscle and cardio exercise.

**charlieparker** · 08-12-2025, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by rpjazzguitar

The point I was trying to get at was that, back when, there was no alternative to knowing all the tunes likely to be called and being able to play them in whatever key was required. So, musicians had to have a certain skill set, requiring, apparently, the ability to hear the pianist (or somebody) start a random tune in a random key and immediately get on it.

I don't see how this could work if you didn't have perfect pitch. Even if I recognize the chord progression or melody, I would have to at least strike a note or 2 to know what it's relationship is to the other notes being played which makes sense with the other guy fumbling for a measure with OP. Maybe the idea was that Oscar played his songs in specific keys and he should have recognized which songs they were right off from the intros.

Part of me thinks there is some exaggeration happening here.

**pamosmusic** · 08-12-2025, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by charlieparker

I don't see how this could work if you didn't have perfect pitch. Even if I recognize the chord progression or melody, I would have to at least strike a note or 2 to know what it's relationship is to the other notes being played which makes sense with the other guy fumbling for a measure with OP. Maybe the idea was that Oscar played his songs in specific keys and he should have recognized which songs they were right off from the intros.

Part of me thinks there is some exaggeration happening here.

I think the latter.

Also if the last tune was in F and you know that, then you SHOULD be able to get the next key when it comes at you.

Now, how many people can actually do that, let alone on stage, at tempo? I can’t imagine very many. I would’ve thanked OP for his time after the first tune for sure.

But OP is playing with the likes of Ray Brown and Herb Ellis, so with the company he keeps maybe that’s not an unreasonable ask?

**AllanAllen** · 08-12-2025, 11:34 AM

It’s how Chuck Berry ran his pickup bands. I think it’s just a show style that’s fallen out of favor. Skip to the last 20 seconds here. Left out was the part where Bruce’s bass player had an ear and was calling out the keys as Berry started whatever he wanted all night.

OP not helping the bassist after he spotted the issue is poor leadership.

Imagine paying $350 to see Diana Krall and the music is shit because even though she realizes the bassist needs to know the tune and key, she’s choosing not to help, to teach him a lesson. Not cool to your fans, the people supporting you deserve better.