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UAFX Dream 65 vs Strymon Iridium vs Milkman The Amp
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09-28-2023 02:56 AM
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Excellent video! I have the dream 65 and I do love it. I got it even though I have a Tone Master deluxe, because I regularly play in a church that does not have room for even a small amp. As he says, it’s very reactive and organic to play and it sounds wonderful, I think slightly better than the tone master but with slightly less headroom. This is the first time I’ve heard anyone play Jazz through the Stryman and I definitely prefer the sound of the deluxe. It’s more three-dimensional and rounder. I never heard of the milkman. It’s pretty impressive. Thanks for sharing this.
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thanks for that Woodstove ….
Could you explain the headroom
issue with the dream 65 pedal ?
some other reviews have been saying this too
i don’t really understand
couldn’t you just up the
pa a bit more and back off the
guitars volume to compensate ?
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yes, you can work with it very satisfactorally. You just have to be careful. There is a small range of input volume that remains clean on the pedal setting. Going up to about 2-3 maintains that beautiful clean. There’s plenty of opportunity to gain stage it even on the pedal itself by increasing its output knob, as well as adjusting the PA volume as you say. It could just be that if you’ve been used to the deluxe reverb as a tube amp, and even with the tone master that models it very accurately, you can dial the volume up to about five before it hits that edge. But as you say, using the pedal, the output volume is independent of that . Don’t be afraid of this issue. It’s a great pedal. Of course, now this had me looking at the milkman and I was fascinated to find out that the dude who invented it is a pedal steel guitar player who started with a hybrid amp combining a tube preamp with a class D and a speaker. I’ve been playing a lot of lap steel since getting one with hand pedals, and it sounds best when I run it through a tube preamp pedal before going to a tone master twin. He evolved the milkman amps after building that amp which is called the half and half. Looks like he turns out really great stuff.
Originally Posted by pingu
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ok I get it …. thanks Originally Posted by Woodstove;[URL="tel:1289490"
i’m tempted to get one
it sounded fabulous on that jazz demo ….
(also great with Tim Pearce playing
blues and rock through it too)
very tempted
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Yep its great for blues and rock. That gets into features not mentioned in the video because they’re not jazz related. It has three different types of boosts and multiple extremely high quality cabinet microphone options. It has a very good tremolo along with the Reverb. There are many useful presets that turn the pedal into a screamer, old school blues amp, and as in the video a very nice jazz amp and you can have a lot of fun dialing in and storing your own configurations.
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great that’s sounds exactly like what i need Originally Posted by Woodstove;[URL="tel:1289496"
(a bit like a Fender Tonemaster Delux
in a pedal ….
just gotta scrape enough dough together
now !
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Originally Posted by Woodstove
I recently downsized from a house to an apartment condo and needed something that sounded good but could be played quietly. The UA Dream 65 plugged into the M-Audio gives me headphones and also let's me play thru my Edifer monitors. I can also chain pedals to my heart's content without lose of sound quality. Also just ordered a UA 1176 compressor for it! :-)
Doug B
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Yeah, UA has it going. I use their Apollo recording units and their Luna DAW in my studio. They've been known for their obsessively perfect software renditions of analogue recording gear for a long time. They apply this to amp plug ins but the pedals they came out with are even better. I also have the Woodrow which is a fantastic Fender Tweed and while it has great cleans the Dream is better suited to jazz. Their effect pedals are also fabulous. Originally Posted by Doug B
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Wood: Is the Luna Daw only for Mac? It looks like it on the UA site.
Doug
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hey Doug, unless they’ve just come out with the windows version unfortunately, the answer is yes, just for Mac. Don’t want to frustrate you, but it’s really great as it is laid out like an old-school tape based studio. It also has certain software hardware interactions with the Apollo units that greatly lower latency while tracking unavailable with other DAWS….. Peter Originally Posted by Doug B
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How’s the UA Dream vs Tonex?
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I haven't used or heard the Tonex. Originally Posted by RyanM
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The best amp pedal for jazz guitar is the one you prefer. Tastes are highly variable, and subject to change. Why else GAS?
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Sorry Peter, I meant an Android version.
Doug
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true that Originally Posted by sgosnell
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A student/friend has the Tonex and says it's the best he's had for amp simulation. He prefers it to the Helix and Boss Gt1000 he also has. He plays big concerts for thousands of people every night so i trust his opinion, and he's getting from helix to tonex plus pedals. Originally Posted by RyanM
The real competition to these pedals are stuff like boss gt1000 core and HX stomp, which are also very portable and offer the same thing plus all these effects and stuff. Also the analog route, pedals like the Sansamp amp simulations (which i still prefer to all digital stuff for gigging).
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I am happy with my GT-1000. Plus, it is more than flexible enough to cover every genre imaginable with top effects as well. I don't want a lot of gear, but I want my gear to do a lot.
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Thanks for "reminding" me about the Sans Amp Alter! I recorded with the rack mount version in the 90s. when I got back into recording seriously 2 years ago, before I went UA, I got the current pedal version. But then I was swept up in all things digital, (and UA) including their pedals which are great, cause they deliver analogue sound. . I hadn't really turned on the Sans Amp...until today. I love the Marshal amps especially blues buster and Hendrix and the clean Marshall tone. Also love the mesa boogies. I don't like the fender tones near as well but it's a great pedal with wonderful responsivity to playing dynamics. I just put it in line with my Woodrow and, btw, my newest love, the Nocturne El Pescadero. This combines an Octal Tube preamp model, ala the Gibson GE amps from the late 40s(!() and 50's which has a very unique old school blues/R&B sound not delivered by any other pedal, AND a great reverb modeled on the Chess Records Echo Chambers. I mean really great and unique. Originally Posted by Alter
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Milkman isn't an amp modeler and lacks the features associated with one. Like choosing which speaker IR you want to use and room reflection. It should be compared to other small footprint amps like a Quilter.
As for the other two, still liking my Strymon. I'm playing clean jazz tones with various archtops and use the Fender DeLuxe model most of the time. However, I do find the Vox model is very useful when you want the extra crispy highs and tight mid. It's a good alternative. Also like having a room delay which is different from a reverb.
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I use Taurus SH 8 Qlone.
It is the best for me.
Taurus Stomp Head SH8, Stomp-Head SH8, Floor guitar amplifier SH8, Taurus SH8Qlone
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True about the Milkman "in itself" but one thing that interests me is its speaker output. I could run this into my Ox Box and take advantage of the outstanding assortment of Cabs/Mics as well as its excellent plate reverb, delay, 1176 compressor and EQ. UA actually just released an "Ox Stomp" that has the Cab/Mic sims as line in. The Ox Box has an line in that UA mad very difficult to access by hiding it inside and making the top very difficult to remove to get to it, to protect this product! Some do so, and run the a 1/4 input to the side of the unit. UA voids the warranty if done. Without hacking into that line in it can only be connected to a amp speaker output. With a milkman to Ox Box I'd have still portable gigging rig allowing for using a real cabinet or PA or both. Of course it's still just one amp, not a modeler of multiple others. Originally Posted by Spook410
Last edited by Woodstove; 09-30-2023 at 12:19 PM.
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A friend of mine has the UA dream. We did some playing and gear testing and we agreed it sounded kinda sterile and it was noisy.
I recently got a milkman 100 and a barefaced cab. Will write a review eventually. I’ve played it out quite a few times and am preferring it tonally to my henriksens.
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Hey, them's fightin' words, Juan! Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
Looking forward to your review!
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have you got option paralysis yet ?
I have !
Ive just bought a behriger graphic eq
for £26 ….
so I’m gonna try that out next
with my Bam200 and Toob Metro setup
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