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Which would you choose? Please don't suggest any other brands or models as I have researched and narrowed my choices down to the Heritage H-575 and Heritage Eagle Classic Standard. BTW, large guitars don't bother me, so a "Super 400 sized" guitar (Heritage Eagle Classic Standard) is OK. I've been playing guitar for many decades but just took up jazz a couple years ago. I like all forms of jazz but especially chord melody. I'm leaning slightly toward the HECS. But I've played an H-575 and loved it. Which would you choose and for what reasons?
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04-07-2023 04:51 PM
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No question the standard by far for my tastes. Much rounder in tone and looks better too. Neck and playability being equal.
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I have a 575 and just recently played a Classic. Two very different guitars, but the main differences I think are the following: the 575 has a shorter scale (24.5) vs the Eagle's (25.5). The Eagle is a 17 or in some cases, an 18 bout (mine was a 17 inch) vs. the 575 - is either a 15 or 16 inch bout - can't recall exactly, but smaller. My 575 had two set pickups while the Eagle had a floater - very different sounds, IMO. For me, both are very comfortable to play. Both are well constructed guitars, consistent with the Heritage quality I have experienced over the years.
Hope this helps.
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I have a 575. That seems to be the "Goldilocks" size archtop for me. To me, it feels like a cross between a full hollow and a 335 style (or i guess, 330, because even though it is a bit shallower it IS still fully hollow)
If you like bigger guitars, then I'd definitely lean Eagle Classic.
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I have a 575 and a Golden Eagle. Kind of apples and oranges but if I could keep only one, it would be the 575. But that’s just me.
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A more appropriate comparison would be the 575 vs. Heritage Sweet 16 They are closer in body dimensions, but have different scale lengths.
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Lookswise, The H-575 reminds me of a nineties/noughties ES-135 (which, of course, had a centerblock).
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Never tried the Eagle. My 575 was rather overbuilt (more so than a 175). Sweet 16 is supposed to be more resonant.
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Are some Heritage Sweet 16s semi-hollow? I've seen two listed as semi-hollow. Typo maybe?
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Sweet 16 are not "full depth" (under 3") but are full hollow, and most of them have a floater
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I kind of thought the two Sweet 16 listings I saw were typos. I've never seen a semi-hollow Sweet 16. The ones that I'm aware of were all hollow-bodies. Maybe it was a custom shop mod to cut down on feedback?
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Isn’t the 575 a maple lam, and the SS carved solid spruce?
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Both the H-575 and Eagle Standard are full hollow, carved archtops, suitable for all types of jazz. The main differences are the scale, and body size as mentioned previously.
If the intended purpose is a bold acoustic sound then go for the Eagle. If looking for a more versatile full hollow that can handle most genres, then go for the H-575. Both sound great amplified.
Check out Rich Severson's numerous videos where he discusses various Heritage (and other brands) models, including the 575 and Eagle.
Here are two of his. There are others if you'd like a deeper dive. Enjoy the hunt!
H-575:
Eagle Classic:
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Most are all solid maple, some have solid carved spruce tops (custom option)
Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Don't think Heritage made a laminate 575.
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Keep your eyes peeled on the For Sale section. In the near future, I am going to be listing a really great player-grade natural H-575 that has several features of the Sweet 16: carved spruce top, 5-piece neck, binding, single pickup, headstock stinger, etc.
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Why do I look at this stuff when I don't have any extra money? Originally Posted by wzpgsr
Keep your eyes peeled on the For Sale section. In the near future, I am going to be listing a really great player-grade natural H-575 that has several features of the Sweet 16: carved spruce top, 5-piece neck, binding, single pickup, headstock stinger, etc.
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Sweet looking H575 you have there. You might consider listing it over on the Heritage Owners Club forum as well as one of the Heritage Guitar Facebook Marketplace. Originally Posted by wzpgsr
Keep your eyes peeled on the For Sale section. In the near future, I am going to be listing a really great player-grade natural H-575 that has several features of the Sweet 16: carved spruce top, 5-piece neck, binding, single pickup, headstock stinger, etc.
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My mistake, I guess all are carved, either maple or spruce. Kinda of funny, the "575" implies it's like a 175.
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Some of the Heritage guitar model names/numbers are a subtle nod to their former Kalamazoo cousins, but their construction was modified, improved or altered by the Heritage builders. Originally Posted by Woody Sound
Gibson......Heritage
ES-225 vs. H-525
ES-335 vs. H-535
ES-330 vs. H-530
ES-175 vs. H-575
I'm guessing the first digit in the Heritage nomenclature (5) relates to the five original founders (Jim Deurloo, Marv Lamb, Bill Page, JP Moats and Mike Korpak, but I have no evidence of that being the case.
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There can be a lot of differences within the same model- bracking, neck carve, pickups, acoustic tone.
The classic may not have inlays. That may be important to some.
The 575 is a beautiful workhorse.
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Im with Git, I have both and you can play chord melody equally beautifully on either. I play my eagle with 14-56 rounds medium action (its a floater) and the 575 with 13-53 flats low. I only recently went to the rounds on the eagle and it blew my mind! It has as much projection and glorious tone as an l5c (I now play it acoustically most of the time), the 575 has mounted pickups and maple top but....either one plugged in can be used for solo guitar, the 575 is super comfy to hold and play and its what I reach for first for late nite couch strumming.
I do know this, whichever you get youll probably want the other also.
R
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It's really personal preference. Do you like 16" guitars with shorter scale (24.75) like the ES-175/H575 or 17" guitars with longer scale (25.5) like the L-5/Heritage Eagle. Also, it will depend on which specific guitars you're considering. There's a lot of variation from one to the next and one may just feel right to you. As others have said the H575 is laminate, while the Eagle is solid wood.
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And Rich owns some of the absolute nicest Heritage archtop’s in his collection. His actually rival what Jay Wolfe used to own. His Heritage’s are truly special! Originally Posted by Gitfiddler
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Id like to add that oddly enough I just took delivery on a box pretty much the same as the one being shown here by wzpgsr. Mine is a '90 S16 with a mounted TJ pickup just like his, basically same guitar with mine having longer scale. Im really enjoying it and I would say it almost perfectly straddles the line between my acoustic eagle and 575. The pickup is very good for acoustic sound with nice presence. I thought I might part with something if it seemed redundant so far as sound between them but instead its like 3 flavors of really good scotch! Its unusual to find that combo of size neck pu etc. If I hadnt just got one Id be seriously looking at this one.
my 2sents R
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Good find! Mine is now posted in the For Sale forum. Originally Posted by Rickco
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