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Thanks for pointing that out!
Here’s a pic of the cable. One end goes into the wall. The other end is split to a c13 connector (goes into your amp) and an additional outlet into which you can plug your board. I’m sure something like this is available in other countries as well.
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12-31-2022 06:02 PM
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Weird about SFCable getting blocked. I can see it in Canada and they appear to ship everywhere from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe. I only checked on shipping cost to Canada. More expensive than Prime, but not that bad. I ordered one from Amazon.
Folks might try searching for: 1-to-2 Power Cord Splitter - NEMA 5-15P to NEMA 5-15R + IEC320C13
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I probably shouldn't assume it's SFcable doing the blocking. It could be my ISP here, or maybe even Japan's market protectionism at work. Omphalopsychos' image post helps my weak imagination, and your search tip gets multiple hits on amazon.co.jp. So thanks to you both!
Originally Posted by ccroft
Please forgive my intrusion and don't let me pull this thread away from that amazing little Henriksen and the related discussion! [Sumimasen and a humble bow.]
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Same here, also in Japan and getting the access denied page. Originally Posted by Flat
But thanks, looks like a useful item, so will try to hunt it down elsewhere.
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my mind is blown Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
Thanks for pointing that out!
Here’s a pic of the cable. One end goes into the wall. The other end is split to a c13 connector (goes into your amp) and an additional outlet into which you can plug your board. I’m sure something like this is available in other countries as well.
although part of my brain is thinking ‘I’m sure there’s a reason why this is a bad idea’; I was never very good at electronics though. Anyone?
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Only down side I can see is that it's an adapter type thing and may be prone to break-down at some point. Which is also true of any cable. Actually, it's a great idea. My old '76 Mesa Mark Zero and most Fenders I've played had an outlet on the back panel.
Omph: Thanks for the great demo. They all sound really good, and that's a nice range of sounds to play with. RE 'compressor hardly doing anything at all': that's where I ended up with my Nano board. Nothing was doing much of anything at all so I ditched the whole thing for a while. Now I'm interested in playing around with it again! I might even bring the drive up past the point of 'barely there'
And you're so right about the feel in the room. Tone such as demoed in the clips is a big part, but not all of it.
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I have a thingie called a 'power squid' which is sort of like that, but with 5 plugs split out. None of them are the type that plug into an amp, though. I don't see any downside other than one plug can only be used in a specific application. I usually just use a heavy duty extension cord, and a 3-plug adapter. This requires a separate cord for each device, which is sort of a drawback, but I usually just use it to reach a distant outlet. A power strip does the same thing, but takes up more space in a bag. For a specific use, that cable could be a perfect solution. I just don't have such a specific use case.
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I love these splitters and use them in my audio system as well as my performance rigs. All cords & cables will eventually fail if repeatedly bent, kinked, folded, crushed, twisted etc. Many a $5000 gig has been halted by an abused $10 cable or cord. Originally Posted by Christian Miller
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In the spare tire well of my car, I carry an extra power cord for my amp (I just learned, on here, it's a C13), an extra 1/4 inch cable, an extra stand and stand light. I've never forgotten my C13, but I've played a gig with a bassist who forgot his. Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
Aside: a long time pro drummer told me that, at one time or another, he had forgotten every part of his drum kit except the bass drum.
I also carry two extension cords in my gig bag, one long and one short -- and a third in the car, just in case. I've never felt the need for a splitter, plugging the usual amp cable into an extension cord works fine for me.
And, since a couple of months ago (don't ask why) a complete soldering kit with the tools needed to access the body cavity.
If there's no other amp on the gig, I'll often carry a spare. I should probably upgrade that to "always".
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I prefer amps with the power cord attached, that way it won't get lost!
I like the idea of that splitter, but I would always carry a backup as well. And aways an extension cord. Backup audio cords. Heck, backup everything!
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Out of those samples, I liked the Bud 10's tone without pedals the most (both EQ settings are fine). Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
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I kinda miss the point of all this. The princeton is really compact already and by the time you add peals to the Bud you got just as much cubic space. right?
I'll take that princeton tone all day long. I suppose if is spent the money on the bud I could try to convince myself or throw pedals at it to make it sound like the princeton. But if I already have the princeton?.......
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I think you are missing the point a bit in a couple regards. The idea behind this is to maximize gig utility. I agree that the Princeton tone is the ideal tone in this comparison, but that’s only at one volume, and it’s recorded conveniently at home. There are downsides about using the Princeton for jazz in other situations. One of them is the bulk/weight. Another one is headroom/volume. And finally there is the question of consistency of tone.
First I think you’re incorrect comparing the portability of this rig vs the Princeton. A Princeton weighs 27-35 lbs depending on speaker choice, and one carries it via the handle on the top of the amp. That’s fine when you can drive and park at the venue, but it’s annoying when you need to walk multiple blocks and open many doors or just need your hands free for other things. This rig weighs about half as much as the Princeton and fits entirely in a couple of gig bags which hang off your shoulders and back, which is much more comfortable.
The second point is about volume. I love the Princeton but once you cross the headroom threshold it gets extremely unpleasant. I like to think we don’t need to be playing that loud but it just happens sometimes.
And the final point is that a tube amp’s tone changes depending on where the volume is at. I find that turning up the Princeton raises up the bass volume and requires tweaking in the moment. In contrast, once I have a tone set with this rig, I have the master volume to change the overall output without affecting the tone.
I’m in agreement that you can’t beat the sound of a tube amp. Give me a tweed for bf fender all day. I’ve also held out on solid state stuff for quite a long time, but playing at louder volumes you need to make reasonable compromises.
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The Blu/Bud will do things that a Princeton can't, starting with much higher clean output levels and headroom. I think the OP's quest is to "warm up" the Bud and let it behave more like a low wattage tube amp throughout its much wider dynamic range, to get the tone of a cranked Princeton at any volume level the Bud can achieve. Originally Posted by callouscallus
I have a Blu and a CS PR, and they're entirely different animals. I personally don't see any need to "warm up" the Henriksen, but I'd use my Wampler Tumnus Deluxe pedal to fatten it and get some pick-sensitive OD if I were using it on a blues gig. I use the CS PR or a Vibrolux on blues gigs at the club in which I play twice a week, and I use either my Superblock US or my DV Mark EG250 through a Toob on outside blues dates.
The other interesting comparisons are cost and weight. The Custom Shop Princeton Reverb now lists for $2750, which is almost 3 times more than I paid for my Blu new. A standard PRRI is aboiut the same cost as my Blu and sounds as good as the CS at low volumes and almost as good when pushed hard - so it's a true substitute. But no Princeton will put out loud and clean like a Bud / Blu. So you have to decide which you want and/or need. If you're playing jazz and need more clean volume than a 12 watt amp can deliver, the choice is clear to me.
The Princeton weighs 32 pounds and the Bud 6 weighs 13 pounds. Add a pedal and the Bud / Blu weighs 14 pounds. For me, the extra 18 pounds makes the PR a pain to drag around, and I don't want to do it any more. I schlepped a Boogie or a Twin up many a flight of stairs when I was young, but I'll never do that again. I wonder how many mature guitarists with bad backs and poor hearing would have been spared those maladies with a class D amp, neo speakers, and IEMs.
[Omphalo, I was writing my post when you put yours up. We seem to be on exactly the same wavelength.]
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Exactly on the same page here. I even got a wampler tumnus to try out in case I need more gain. It was pretty cool but I wasn't crazy about what it did to the EQ. Originally Posted by nevershouldhavesoldit
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Having tried a number of ways to "warm up" a variety of amps, the only solution I have found is an Evans amplifier, bar none. Tons of clean headroom, tasteful onboard reverb, and a superb platform for pedals (should you want/need them). It does not get much better than a guitar direct into an Evans amplifier.
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For a living room player, a Princeton might suffice, but a gigging player will often need more power and if a tube amp is part of that equation, that means even more weight to carry. Furthermore, with the quality of today's tubes, a tube amp has built in reliability issues, something that a gigging musician is well advised to avoid.
For those like Oomph who desire a less "solid state" jazz tone, his tweak makes things work. As this thread shows, you can get pretty close to a tube tone with solid state reliability and weight.
For the last few years, over 90 percent of my gigs are done with a Henriksen Blu6 or Bud6. My Blu10 and vintage Princeton rarely leave the house. And my 65 year old back is very thankful for that.
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Diddle with the pedal’s EQ - it’s very effective on the Tumnus Deluxe and can work with the amp’s EQ to get a wide variety of tones. I’m not into effects, but I’m getting the same great bluesy tone from all of my guitars with it regardless of pickup. Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
The regular Tumnus doesn’t have 3 band EQ. So if that’s the one you got, you have less control over tone.
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Great reply and very detailed, thanks! Makes sense.
Originally Posted by omphalopsychos
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I like bringing two amps… I do not always do that, but when I do, I do not need to worry about volume or air being pushed. One of my fav setups is a Henriksen Jazz 110 (v2), and my (non-reverb) Princeton. Both amps really complement each other.
(I have tried a zillion ways, since the beginning (40ish years ago) to get a SS amp to sound like a tube amp. I have not been super successful. It has to do with, that sound where the tubes are starting to add harmonic intermodulation… that little bite, and crunch. A pedal will do it but it always sounds flat or less dynamic. My fav, od, dirt, or fuzz pedals allow for the clean to be mixed in. That way I can get both some edge and retain a cleanish sound. They are tricky to use because the mix can sound artificial).
Eventually I realized that I like both ss and tubes for different reasons.
That has lead to me running a stereo setup, with all the hassles and problems of that.
Therefore, I often bring only one amp. The type of gig, volume, how far I have to carry stuff, do I feel safe making multiply trips to the car and back, how fast do I need to set up, how lazy I am, if it is raining…. Those determine what I bring.
(No matter how good things are I always miss the second amp, if I am not being mic’ed).
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I dunno I've been gigging with a Princeton for a few years. Make sure you have a sensitive speaker in there and it does fine with drums, even quite loud drums.
It's nice to have the security of Twin or something though, and with the Tonemaster amps you an have it with no extra weight.
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