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Any recommendations other than faber? Got my faber and the A string screw was stripped and wouldn't turn. For $80, I expected a little better quality control. Has anyone tried the gotoh? Or anything else ?
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11-05-2022 05:11 PM
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Why don't you return it and try another, they can't all be stripped.
Originally Posted by jzucker
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Exactly. I have several of them and all were perfect. Originally Posted by wintermoon
If you want the absolute best and don’t mind the price KMS.
They even come with extra saddles, saddle studs, posts, and C clips.
Your choice of billet brass or Zamac. The brass is a bit brighter.
Faber stands by there products. They would have sent another no questions asked. Both the Faber and KMS are made in Germany and very high quality.
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I raised a complaint that the bridge was defective and they sent me a return approval but nobody reached out to me to offer a replacement. If someone had contacted me and offered to ensure the next one they sent out was perfect, I would have probably taken them up on the offer but something as basic as a stripped screw should have been discovered during QC checks IMO...(At this price point particularly) Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
I don't need the absolute best. I just want something that works.
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another thing I didn't like about the faber was that the adjustment screw was a flat head and they were all fairly hard to turn so the screwdriver kept popping out of the slot. By comparison, the gotoh bridge I have is very well machined and uses phillips heads and the fit of the screw was so much more precise so they turn very easily. I'd use the gotoh but the hole for the height adjustment is too large for the gibson adjustment thumbscrew...
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I have a Graphtech with Stringsaver saddles on my ES-390. Not sure if you want to go there but it works well for me.
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by the way, i just double checked the faber bridge and 3 of the 6 bridge pieces have stripped screws. None of the pieces allows full adjustment all the way from one side of the saddle opening to the other. The screw travel seems to be limited to about 80% of the opening for the slot in the bridge.
On the gotoh bridge I have the travel encompasses 100% of the slot width. Unfortunately, the gotoh has bigger holes than the diameter of the 175 thumb screws.
Who knew this would be so difficult?
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Is there an actual Gibson bridge that would fit your bridge base?
Alternatively, can you post a picture of the bridge and the hole spacing and diameter? I can check that and let you know whether either of the ones I have would would fit.
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The gibson archtop tuneamatic bridge would work but it has the retaining wire which rattles. Originally Posted by John A.
the screw hole spacing is 74mm and the hole size for the thumbscrews is 3mm. The gotoh I have is 74mm and 5mm hole size. I think that would work on a les paul but not an archtop.
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Let me see if I have this straight. Your bridge has 3mm threaded posts set in it and the Gotoh you have has 5 mm holes? Is that correct? Originally Posted by jzucker
I have a Gotoh bridge on my Seventy Seven. My caliper seems to have died, and I had to eyeball it with a ruler, so this could be a little off. But the holes look to be 5mm and the posts look to be 3mm. It works fine. Did you try the one you have?
(my D’Angelico’s Sung-Il branded bridge has wider spacing and holes, so that would be of no use)
Other than that, what about either a non-wire ABR-1 or a Nashville?
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yes, that's correct regarding the measurements. I did try it and there is too much slop in the difference in hole size so it's difficult to accurately set the intonation because the can move around. Originally Posted by John A.
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I’ve never tried on a guitar bridge post, so grains of salt, but maybe something like a wrap of plumber’s tape would solve the slop while leaving enough of gap for adjustment? Originally Posted by jzucker
There are also workarounds for the retaining wire on a Gibson bridge to keep to it from rattling.
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the gibson bridge would be acceptable but not fitting on the bridge post is kind of a deal breaker for me. Putting tape on it would make it difficult to adjust. And it's a $5k instrument. I don't feel like it's acceptable to patch it with duct tape! Originally Posted by John A.
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Originally Posted by jzucker
Hey now, no dissing the duct tape! [note exquisitely hand crafted, expertly curated, duct tape couverture d’amplificateur, a unique accessory for your finest vintage sound enhanchers]
But I’m talking about the super thin teflon stuff you wrap around threaded pipes and fixtures to keep water from leaking through a connection. Might be worth a shot if you’re going to the hardware store anyway.
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It would take a lot of layers of teflon tape to build up from 3mm to 5mm. I think i'll just take it to my luthier and let him find a solution. Gotoh makes a bridge with 4mm hole. Maybe that's close enough? Originally Posted by John A.
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John, I took your advice and put the gotoh bridge on the 175 footer. Even though there's some slip in the screw hole, the tension of the strings hold it in place. It's nice having the instrument actually play in tune for a change!
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Excellent! Glad it's working out. Originally Posted by jzucker
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Gotoh toms usually comes with a set of thumbwheel bolts. The threaded part of the bolt seems more standard (m4 or m8) than the part that goes into the hole in the bridge. So sometimes its easier to just use the new thumbwheel bolts with the new bridge than to find a bridge that fits the old thumbwheel bolts
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Hey Jack,
Sorry man. I recommended the Faber to you and it didn’t work.
I have 4 of them and I like them. I am surprised that you got a dud. I’m very surprised.
JD
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