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really clean example that sold immediately.
this is the highest price I've ever seen a 175 bring
the times they are a changin'........
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07-05-2022 05:04 PM
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Today a sunburst Norlin ES 175D starts at 3K, about double what they sold for 20 years ago, but seeing as a dollar today is probably worth about half what a dollar was worth 20 years ago, it makes sense.
They are not making any more 175's at present and certainly there were not many blonde 2 PAF pickup 175's ever made ( less than 683 according to shipping totals), so that price does not surprise me.....
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Wow! Couldn’t find the listing on Gruhn’s site. Are there pictures anywhere?
Keith
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That's amazing to me. I bought a '55 sunburst 2 P90 about a half dozen years ago and glad I did. That vintage really rings my bell. And, my mother helped me buy a '72 in '72. My first archtop. She didn't flinch when I said that I wanted to play jazz guitar. That's amazing too!
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Originally Posted by floatingpickup
Pics disappeared when it sold Keith but I knew it would get your attention since you have a nice '59
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It's not the guitar, it's the pickups. PAF prices have gone way up.
A complete, original PAF pickup assembly is worth a lot of money these days.
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Seeing as how Retrofret recently got 16.5K for a '64 I'd say it's a combination.
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Wintermoon. Originally Posted by wintermoon
I would have enjoyed seeing pictures of the one that sold. I have always kept a close watch on the value of paf 175’s, just to be aware of the market. No matter how much they are worth now or in the future, I don’t think I could ever let my ‘59 go for any amount of money. There is something magical about an original 175 from that era. As Hammertone pointed out, the pickups are a big part of the price escalation, but it makes me sad every time I hear about someone removing the paf’s from one of these beautiful guitars to cash in on the paf mystique. Whenever that happens, there is one less of these fine jazz guitars left in original condition. Maybe that helps to push the prices up too.
Keith
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Keith, Originally Posted by floatingpickup
I had a '59 sunburst that was one ding away from mint. The guy that bought it said he did because he was outbid on one that he wanted for the PAFs, but when he got mine he said it was so nice he couldn't bring himself to yank the pu's. I was happy to hear that.
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For $25K, I guess nobody would be parting her out to "fully unlock the value". Not unless a pair of PAFs and harness is worth $24K now...
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It must be parted out by now. Shoulda held on to it, wintermoon. Hope you reinvested the funds in TSLA in 2013...and held on to them shares. Originally Posted by wintermoon
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Good to hear the guy couldn’t do it. That must have been a beauty. Originally Posted by wintermoon
Keith
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If some idiot wants to buy a vintage 175 for the pafs I`ll buy the rest from him and sleep with it chained to my wrist
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There’s a story I heard on the Heritage forum of someone bringing a load of them to the dump when Gibson was moving from Kalamazoo and cleaning out the factory. Originally Posted by Hammertone
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There was also one at Carter's that sold. The only two remaining that I know of are at Crandall.
1957 Gibson ES-175DN – TR Crandall Guitars
1958 Gibson ES-175DN – TR Crandall Guitars
One of them has an amazing refret and great playability, I know because I'm the one who had it refretted.
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I owned a 59 ES-175 for awhile that was exactly that. Just a body shell with every value part taken out to be added to a 59 Les Paul I imagine. Originally Posted by JohanAbrandt
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I’m glad I’m a player and not a collector. I’ve always bought on playability, and tone never minded the pedigree that much.
I will say that the 1950’s Gibsons generally have my favorite specs for what I like.
But at those prices there are so many better new choices that work equally well if not even better,imo!
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How did it play, feel, sound? I am a wood guy so I imagine it would still feel real to me, but I dont know Originally Posted by Paulie2
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Felt great to me like any old Gibson. Really similar to my '53 L7. Unfortunately I could not bond with the neck so I eventually moved it for something else but loved it otherwise. Then again, electronics are some of the least important things to me on a guitar so all the replaced stuff did not phase me Originally Posted by JohanAbrandt
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for some reason it's relisted now as sold
Gibson ES-175DN 1958 | Gruhn Guitars
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Thanks for letting us know that the pictures have been posted. I was hoping to see the pictures of that one. It’s a really clean example. It looks like it has been refretted, but that’s not a big deal. Are there divots in the fingerboard, or is it just a bad photo? Originally Posted by wintermoon
Keith
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No, they're grooved a bit in the middle positions, they usually reflect the light Originally Posted by floatingpickup
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Hmmm. They advertised it as EXF, but that seems like a bit of an issue to me. Originally Posted by wintermoon
Keith
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True story: Originally Posted by Hammertone
Friend of mine took out a pair of PAF’s out of his Les Paul back then because he didn’t like the sound of them. He recently found them back on the bottom of a parts drawer and sold them. I think he still didn’t recover from laughing about what he made for them…..
His comment: I like the pair of classic 59s that I have in that guitar better anyway (his opinion of course, I have never heard the PAFs he sold, so I couldn’t possibly comment on that).
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Back in the mid 1990s, I purchased a brand new Gibson ES-175. It felt heavy and rather clunky, and there was always something on rattling. I sold or traded it off. A year or so later, I ran into a 1950s ES-175 used at a local Music-Go-Round. It was a completely different guitar - light as a feather, and no rattles. I should have bought it, but at the time, I didn't have the cash. Now, I have a 1998 Gibson Howard Roberts Fusion III and couldn't be happier.
Tony
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