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This showed up and worth a listen to hear great rhythm guitar like it is supposed to be player. The great thing about this sound and pulse is no matter the scene even two guitars in a duo it is fantastic to solo against. Not to mention play. It is funny watching them smoke those cigarettes all through the clip with smoke pouring out, wild.
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04-02-2022 01:27 PM
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beautiful
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I've seen this before and it strikes me again that they're hardly looking at each other while playing and are even more in their own bubble when not playing. I'm more used to seeing that in veteran classical orchestra players...
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That is no other than Freddie Green, mr Rythm himself. Check out the site about him. freddiegreen.org. | keep his autograph in my guitar case
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I knew a sackbut player who always carried an orange in his case ... for a sweet tone. Does the autograph help you in any way?
Originally Posted by hotpepper01
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After all those decades of playing together, there was no real need to look at each other.
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I still have the VHS but my player is toast, hah.
One of my favorites of the Jazz Casual series, but they're all really great.
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You mean like with those serious classical string quartets who spend countless hours wringing every last drop of music from their repertoire?
Originally Posted by sgosnell

To me it looks (and also sounds, to some extent) as if the need to look at each other is not the only thing that's gone ... the fun to ... after decades of playing together for audiences who were also busy with their own things?
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Amazing to hear the Count playing Waller's Hand Full of Keys. I think Count Basie the pianist is sometimes under-appreciated, being primarily thought of as a band leader; somewhat the way Nat King Cole is remembered by many as a singer, and his piano style given lesser importance. Not by their contemporaries, of course; Oscar Peterson often talked about how much messrs. Basie and Cole influenced him.
It's always fun to watch Basie perform, and see those smiles of private enjoyment as he plays (and also as he answers foolish questions).
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Not really, It doesn´t improve my playing, that stays as bad as ever.. But everytime I take something like a pick or cliptuner out of the small compartment, I see this autograph. I would have liked to meet him in person, Seeing that tiny `real`piece of Freddie is with me every gig and I like the thought.
Originally Posted by RJVB
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Basie was a fine pianist in many genres, and could play stride with the best of them. But he didn't seem to feel that one was compelled to play every note of every lick one knew on every tune. He also said something to the effect that there is no shame in staying somewhere around the melody when soloing. He's probably my favorite pianist, in any genre.
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You can put Duke there too, great player but usually thought of as a composer/bandleader.
Originally Posted by Ukena
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If I had to sum up that quartet in one word, the word would be "musical".
Great stuff.
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I've seen this video, love it! Best thing is how Basie smiles after each tune..
how good this music makes him (and us) feel!
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I am just sitting here thinking that playing the guitar with a piano player like Basie as a soloist. Naturally Freddie Green played rhythm and he used the basic 3r and 7ths of the chord mostly. Then you have Basie playing sparse but very nice solid comping on the piano. Frankly I am not a great soloist but even a hack like me could play decent solo lines in a setting like this. Also the drummer using the brushes more just makes this whole group sound solid. I dare say that anyone under 35 probably finds this stuff old fashion or not relevant anymore but to me this is like the great classical composer and compositions of 150 years ago................they still sound good. Bach, Beethoven, and Brahms.
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Great observation, Mark; I listened to the entirety of Martino's Joyous Lake recording last night and the night before, and it struck me that music has always been about magic and drama and accomplishment and especially how it makes you feel. If that opening Basie tune doesn't make you smile and be happier for a few minutes, that's a shame, but lots of people like that thing. Any real musician recognizes the mastery of a Basie, and it doesn't even take 4 bars. I heard the band live with Freddy, and I had a brief conversation with him on the break, just small talk, but I really enjoyed Basie's work all night.
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Gleason: what was the name of that tune?
Basie: I don't know
classic......
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The thing that really cracks me up is Basie points at various guys to take a solo.
When he points to Freddie he completely catches him off guard.
I think in 50 yrs w the Basie band he only took one solo.
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Talk about time feel!
Now and then you hear a band that's deep in a groove, and when you focus on each player, not one of them is doing very much.
Basie is as sparse as can be. I love that, and it's not easy to do. When you leave that much space, the notes you do play have to be great. He never wastes a note. Who else plays that sparsely?
Green is playing quarter notes on the beat (not to minimize the artistry involved) and the bass and drums are quietly cooking along. I never get tired of it, even though you might think it would be repetitive.
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" Is that the way they played the blues in KC, Count?" Gleason thought that was a blues!
Originally Posted by wintermoon
I read about another jazz critic who couldn't recognize a blues progression and had to ask the performer what he just played.
Leonard Bernstein tried to play a blues in a club in Boston, and couldn't hack it!
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That's why for the most part they're critics and not musicians.
Originally Posted by sgcim
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Yeah, Gleason was a real phony. As soon as rock began to get popular, he ditched jazz like a hot potato, and wrote for Rolling Stone!
Originally Posted by wintermoon
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As someone who spends 90% of every gig doing literally this.... I have... opinions.
Originally Posted by deacon Mark
Anyone under 35? More like anybody under 70 or 80, and that's being generous.
Actually almost the entire original audience for pre-bop styles of jazz is already dead.
And ironically, the only group of people who are into this kind of thing aren't musicians or jazz listeners....
They're swing dancers... and the biggest percentage of them are under 35.
I know I certainly wouldn't have a career if I depended on listeners.
Anyway, yeah, it's a pretty great clip, especially since we just passed Freddie's birthday last week.
I'm partial to this clip of Freddie, since it's the only video of him in the "Old Testament" era where there's contemporaneous sound:
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Yeah, that's what people say... but of course, he actually had several small recorded solos here and there over the years.
Originally Posted by wintermoon
The most famous one is probably on "The Elder"... solo starts about 4:30...
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But wouldn't that be equally true back in the day, possibly without the age thing, because the purpose of this music was to make people dance? It would probably also explain why the music "disappeared" when the dance style went out of vogue.
Originally Posted by campusfive
I find it easier to sit through a concert of gypsy/Hot Club de France jazz, btw, but that could just be because I've been much more exposed to it.



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