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Thanks Sam. I looked at the site you linked, and 551280 is not included.
Originally Posted by Sam Sherry
The list skips an entire range:
540796 to 545009 1969
555000 to 557999 1966
Nothing between 545009 and 555000, which is where 551280 would fall.
Also, are there known differences between the 66 and 69 models?
Thanks,
Len
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04-03-2022 05:12 PM
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Spec wise there are no differences. A little later than ‘69 some started getting volutes, but not all of them.
Originally Posted by Len R
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Volutes usually show up on high end Gibson archtops around '77-'78
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'76 Byrdland:
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'74 l-5s:
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There were Gibsons w volutes in the early 70s but no high end archtops to my knowledge
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I don’t know when the first GJS with a volute occurred, but I know for sure that during a given year there were some with a volute and some without.
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Gibson started using their volute in mid 1972 and ended the practice in mid 1982.
I have played a 1976 GJS that had a volute. I believe mid 1975 was when they started putting them on archtops.
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Again with the volutes ??????
My '81 L5 CES has a volute - and I'm glad it does.
M '65 GJS did not. I couldn't wait to sell the GJS. The L5 is a keeper.
By the way, when I play the L5, the volute has NOTHING to do with its playability. I have no idea that it's there.
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I believe the early Gibson Citations had volutes in the late 1960’s.
Considering they were already 5 piece maple necks that was even more protection.
My Elferink is that constructive with the volute as well and graphite rods. I would guess that would be as stable as one gets with wood construction.
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I've talked to few luthiers over the years and they said they've repaired plenty of cracked headstocks of Gibsons w/ volutes.



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