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With along wait with the Ibanez AF2000, I am looking at the Comins GSC 16 Honey Blond.
any comparisons...
I may order tomorrow.
Thx
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02-10-2022 05:10 PM
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have a look here concerning the comins cgs 16 :
Comins GCS-16-1
(if you didn't see this post before)
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The Comins is a class (or two) above the Ibanez, no question
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Why do you say that?
Originally Posted by drbhrb
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That’s a lot of classes. Originally Posted by drbhrb
Ibanez has been hitting it out of the ballpark for the last few years sound and build quality wise.
The Japanese Ibanez and Gretsch guitars are just about perfect these days. Their non-Japanese stuff is also pretty great as well.
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Ibanez quality is excellent, Japanese on par with the best...
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Ibanez are great high end guitars, with unbelievable quality price ratio.
But sometimes miss a bit of personality.
They are new instruments (AF2000) , so maybe they'll need a few years to wear in.
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I agree with that , Originally Posted by Jx30510
but I see the lack of personality as
a good thing ...!
meanwhile
the Comins GCS and the
Ibanez AF2000 are both very high
quality japanese made instruments
the QC is apparently Very Good on both these
which really matters when buying unseen
I hope it works out well for you
either way man
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Comins is made in South Korea.
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sorry ....i stand corrected ,
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Ibanez support has turned horrible as of late. I'm still waiting to hear back from them from 2 months ago despite getting the east coast rep involved. Between covid, short staffing and other issues, they don't seem to care. Originally Posted by Guitarbean25
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don't agree with that at all. Originally Posted by Jx30510
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Geez Jack. Originally Posted by jzucker
You hands down have the worst guitar gear experiences I’ve known about.
Sorry to hear about your experience.
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Why?
Ibanez Prestige are top quality guitars.
I've never seen a bad Ibanez archtop, at any price. The more you pay, the more you get, in a very honest way. It's not the case with many brands.
The last ones I tried, in the less than 500€ price, where perfectly suitable.
But very far from the Prestige models.
I think that the recent ones aren't up with the 80's craftsmanship.
Or maybe the older ones have been played in?
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we'll have to agree to disagree. I had 3 bad ones in the last 6 months. AF2000, AS2000, AS200 - 4 if you count a 1990 AF200 and their support is god-awful. Originally Posted by Jx30510
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I have to agree I tried once a new generation AS200 (maybe 2009 or 2010 made) , that was at least 7 or 8 years ago, and was very overwhelmed with it compared to my 1981 AS200
But as always, I don't like how guitars are set up out of factory. Even really good ones, I find them barely playable most of the time.
It's very hard to judge an instrument at a music shop. Set up is a personal thing, but a rarely judge a guitar picking it of the wall in a noisy shop.
Jzucker I know you have a great experience with guitars, so I know that if you've had bad ones, they where bad ones. And that's disappointing for sure.
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If I can compare, maybe you've seen my recent NGD thread with the Tokai FA245, it is very much more authentic and boutique feeling than any recent Ibanez I've tried.
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Not for nothing Jack, but you are quite obviously cursed. It isn't just Ibanez; it's stores, websites, sellers, like literally everything. I don't remember you having a decent experience with anything for months. If I were you, I'd seriously consider having other people order my lunch for me...just in case! Originally Posted by jzucker
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Opinions are fun, are they not?
There’s a constant negative bias here towards Ibanez, but fine leave them for us that appreciate them.
I am extremely happy with the sound, playability and price of my AF200, PM200, and LGB300. My 98 TF, supposedly a good year, does not have the fit and finish an MIJ Ibanez has. My L5 can stand next to the LGB300 and both can be proud. That’s saying something.
No guitar company ships 100% perfect setup guitars 100% of the time. To blame Ibanez for out of case set up is just another indication of the jg.be anti-Ibanez BS. Like every Gibson is perfect out of the box? Every… dare I say…every Eastman?
Jack… I’ve had immediate response from Hoshino when looking for a bridge, asking about Super58’s, and the (elusive) PM25. 2 out of 3 I didn’t get the answer I wanted, but they answered. Got a special order bridge in like a month.
I dunno. Is there an Internet equivalent of getting a ‘kick me’ tag stuck on your ID?)))
We have to find some way to break your karma cycle!
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i've had plenty of great experiences recently. Amplified Nation Wonderland from MattsMusic, Gibson 175 from Gruhn, Universal Audio pedals from sweetwater, Yamaha SA2200 from empire music, DVMark head from musicians friend, gladio sc pedal from cornerstone music, pickups from bartolini, nordstrand, etc., etc. Originally Posted by jim777
Not for nothing Jack, but you are quite obviously cursed. It isn't just Ibanez; it's stores, websites, sellers, like literally everything. I don't remember you having a decent experience with anything for months. If I were you, I'd seriously consider having other people order my lunch for me...just in case!
Sorry if I burst your bubble by posting negative experiences. I believe people should know what they're getting into. I try to tell it like it is.
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You told it like it was for you, Jack. Damning any vendor for one person’s experience is just silly.
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No bubble burst here Originally Posted by jzucker
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Just one persons opinion obviously. But I've owned a handful of Ibanez guitars from their budget archtops up to their higher end stuff (though not this model in question). Across the board I found the Ibanez guitars to have plasticky finishes, were just middle of the road tonewise, and are always appointed in an overly gaudy style (IMO). I think they are reasonably good value at the entry level but I've never played a higher end Ibanez that truly felt higher end, even the very popular Benson model which I owned for a while. I had a similar customer service experience as Jack once when I needed a replacement part as well whereas the opposite was true with the Comins. Originally Posted by jim777
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Just my take over the years. While Ibanez makes perfectly fine instruments, I agree that feel somewhat plastic and personality free.
That can be great if you that’s your thing.
But just as quirks and definite personality like many Gibsons have, is why I prefer them over other brands including Heritage.
They are after all tools to make music, and you should play what inspires you first and foremost.
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Jack, not sure if you are talking about the company failures or the guitars. How do find the guitar (AF2000) aside from the company, in that price range that you can order new? (selective older models aside).
Do find them satisfactory or of poor build for the money?
In the $2500 range what would be your preferences? (New)
As you know I am on the lookout for an AF2000...
I'm done with Peerless or Eastman so...
I don't see the Ibanez guitars as plastic, the JH Sadowsky is Poly, pretty thick too but sounds incredible.
As far as personality free ...???
Seems to be up to the player to provide that.... like, the personality is the Player not the guitar unless the guitar is just weirdly defective sound wise.
I believe Jack would bring plenty of personality to his guitars through his playing.
..no?
Or Wes, or Jim Hall....
Sounds odd to me but maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean.
Drbhrb what fo usually recommend in the 2500 range then?Last edited by jazzimprov; 02-11-2022 at 09:36 PM.
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