In search for a new amp! Home use only!

[Marcel_A]

I don’t see your point. Asking for experiences of other player is all ways useful. Especially since I will probably buy second hand.

@Frans 97: yes I am. But what I don’t need is random ‘wisdom’ about swapping speakers.
Maybe you didn’t notice, but I asked about the XD. Wheater it was a good amp or not. It was good but I had to swap the speaker . . . In my book that is a bad amp. That car is good but you have to swap the engine. That sort of thing.

[CharlesR]

”fender super champ xd (i hate all the modeling and effects, but everybody seems to like it, so i'll give it a try)”

Well, the secret of the SCXD is that channel 1 is not modeling and it has very good fender clean tube sound.

The channel 2 has all the modelings but one does not need to use them!

Here is a video about a guy who has a SCXD and changed the speaker to Celestion Gold 10:

The XD is a good amp with a bad speaker as Herbie said.

You are asking for cheap amps, and as cheap cars you get what you paid for. XD bad speaker. Pro Junior bad cabinet. And components...

What you want cost more money than your budget.

All your choices are sub par amps, bad amps in your book. Save more money, try as many amps as you can and get what you like.

[Marcel_A]

@Charles
You are not making any sense. The Koch and the pro junior are/seem both good amps for what i intend to use them for.
Please don't put words in my mouth.

[CharlesR]

@Charles
You are not making any sense. The Koch and the pro junior seem both are/seem both good amps for what i intend to use them for.
Please don't put words in my mouth.

Sorry Marcel, not my intention, far from that.

[Joeontheguitar]

C'est la ton qui fait la musique...
I don't know about the rest and maybe it is because you're not a native English speaker (neither am I), but to be honest Marcel, I really don't like your tone of voice. People are trying to help you, free of charge, in their own time, because they share a passion. Is it too much to ask to remain polite if they (in your eyes) offer advice that doesn't really help you?

We, the Dutch, already have a reputation of being blunt. Let's not reinforce that reputation on this excellent, friendly and very helpful forum please.

[Marcel_A]

Thanks for the feedback Joe. I don’t intend to be impolite. If it comes across like that, my apologies. Maybe the ‘bluntness’ is a bit intentionally. Some advice does not come across as such.

[chasranney]

”fender super champ xd (i hate all the modeling and effects, but everybody seems to like it, so i'll give it a try)”

Well, the secret of the SCXD is that channel 1 is not modeling and it has very good fender clean tube sound.

The channel 2 has all the modelings but one does not need to use them!

Here is a video about a guy who has a SCXD and changed the speaker to Celestion Gold 10:

Hello, Herbie!
The Super Champ XD uses DSP in the preamp section - for all channels. It sounds very nice though. I've owned one for about a decade.

[Herbie]

Hello, Herbie!
The Super Champ XD uses DSP in the preamp section - for all channels. It sounds very nice though. I've owned one for about a decade.

Oh, thanks, good to know!

I too had one almost for a decade. I loved its sound (with the stock speaker) so much that I just had to build ”a real” AB763 amp.

[Grigoris]

I have a second hand XD which needed new tubes twice in the three years I own it; one of the technicians said that these amps are biased hot or in some way are wrongly set up by default and there's nothing that can be done, his advice was to "get another, different, amp"
So far, with all the maintenance and new tubes, I have paid more than twice the amount I spent initially when I bought the amp.

There is an ad for a Pro Jr IV not too far from where I live, and I'm between this and a Blues Jr

I will need a reliable amp to play with a big band on stage, probably with a mic if needed, but also for the rehearsals and extra small club/bar gigs.
Do you think the Pro Jr has enough head room to keep up? There's another guitarist who comes to the jam nights at a restaurant/bar once a month with his Blues Jr and it's fine playing next to the drummer.

[Jabberwocky]

...I will need a reliable amp to play with a big band on stage, probably with a mic if needed, but also for the rehearsals and extra small club/bar gigs.
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The Amp 12" Combo: Lightweight 50W Guitar Amplifier by Milkman Sound

[Cunamara]

Never heard of a mambo wedge!
not sure if they are sold in the Netherlands.

Dutchbopper, also in the Netherlands (check his YouTube channel) has had a Mambo in the past and spoke very highly of it.

[chris32895]

FWIW I had a Fender Super Champ XD and did not care for it at all. Maybe it was bad luck but it hissed like crazy and was not good for bedroom playing. I also had a DV Mark 12 that came with poor quality control and also hissed super badly that left a bad taste in my mouth for DV Mark stuff. I did own a Quilter 101 Reverb with a BlockDock 10 and I did like that setup for a while, but after a few years found the amp to be way too bright so I sold it. Right now I have a Quilter 101 Reverb and a Toob Metro 6.5GP which is by far my favorite amp setup I've had so far. Toob also has 10" cabs if you want one, but that may go a smidge above your budget. The Quilter Superblock is seriously so versatile and small, with the best headphone out on an amp I've used.

My experience and 2 cents with mid-range practice amps, FWIW.

[enalnitram]

I have a made in USA pro junior from 1995. I've used it continuously ever since. By far my most used amp I've ever owned. All I've ever done to it is change the tubes a few times. The stock speaker is a blue alnico Eminence. I love everything about it. I haven't a/b'd it with a PJ IV, but I've heard that the IV is a little quieter.

[Alter]

I have a PJ IV and have played a couple of old ones with the blue speaker. I think the speaker is the biggest difference, the old ones really come alive if you are playing blues or rock, anything with a breakup sound. But the IV is fine sounding too, especially when played loud.