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So if I was a billionaire I would buy Gibson. Then due to my previous comment about never using the bridge pickup on Super 400ces I got a idea. A Wesmo L5 to me right now seems to be the top dog, even though a heart I am acoustic archtop player. But allowing the built in gives a different flavor this is what I would do/want. Personally I do think they would be marketable and sell most especially the super 400.
As the new CEO I propose they build the following guitars.
A whole line up of WesMo style guitars
1. The Super 400 Wesmo style with one pickup
2. The Tal Farlow Wesmo with one pickup
3. The Wesmo ES 175 one pickup
I really would like one of each and frankly it won't happen but sure would be cool. I know the alternative is simply have Mark Campellone make you one of his that can be done.
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08-17-2020 01:02 PM
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This is probably one reason why you are not a billionaire? ;-)
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What else, apart from a single PU, would make a 175 a Wesmo?
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But, of course, a full-scale/full-depth ES-350 with single pickup. It's the way they originally came, and IMO it's the finest jazz guitar that isn't a ES-150 (pre-war) or an L-5CES (Wes or otherwise).
Tal Farlow and Barney Kessel made the 350 just sing. (Dutchbopper kicks up a fuss with one, too...and so does Fred Archtop.)
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A single pickup ES-175 would just be a return to an original option, perhaps a reissue. The single pickup ES-175 was made for 20+ years. They came is P-90 and humbucker versions. They were made in smaller numbers overall when compared to the two pickup version (ES-175D), but they aren’t too hard to find. Would it have a finger rest to make it a WesMo?
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Single pickup 175: '47-'72, I believe the records will show. Here was mine:
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Why not just an original spec ES-350? Not a guitar I would buy because of the big size, but I STILL don't get why they won't do that.
Originally Posted by deacon Mark
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Why not just an original spec ES-350? Not a guitar I would buy because of the big size, but I STILL don't get why they won't do that. Originally Posted by deacon Mark
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Is the ES350 a full depth archtop or the slimmer 3" like the Tal Farlow?
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Full
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Wesmo Tele
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Deacon,
I LOVE your Plan.
Joe Pass would have loved it too.
Some minor alterations..
Make the single pickup 175, the "Joe Pass" model and make it 2-3/4" deep. With Pearloid tuner knobs and gold hardware.
Steal one back from D'Angelico and call the Super400 single pickup the Super400 New Yorker.
The Tal Idea is great one too. I've seen a single pickup Tal in blond once. Quite frankly it was perfect and I would have bought it in a heartbeat if I had the money.
Some more things..
As Gibson Prez, can you get them to be more customer focused? Start selling online and cut out the dealer network and the 100% markup. 25% is fair.
Give Andreas Oberg a signature deal (purple guitars, nice..). Bring back the Johnny Smith Model.
And yes, of course, make sure all L5 Wes Montgomery's have the L5 Logo on the tailpiece. And offer a replacement for those that don't. (alright maybe I am being a little selfish).
JD
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Is Gibson making any archtops these days? Asking for a friend...
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Wait! The single pickup ES-175 already has a name, the ES-165 and it is the Herb Ellis signature. If they bring back a single pickup ES-175 it’s his name that should be on it. Originally Posted by Max405
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When Herb Ellis sent his '53 ES-175 back to Gibson for refreshening, what he got back was essentially his old guitar with ES-165 appointments. It became the prototype, as it were for the Herb Ellis model. My wife and I had dinner with him one night in the 80s and Herb let me play the guitar. It is now owned by a forum member. It is a fabulous example of an early-50s, lightweight ES-175...but with a humbucker and some other things.
As I recall, the guitar had been refretted enough that the radius of the fretboard was pretty flat (flatter than 12"), but this felt quite good, actually, to me. The frets were big and very roundly finished. The neck was just superb. The guitar, I believe, had a new volume/tone harness. Weight felt in the 5.5-5.75 lb range, to me.
As equipped, it was the best 175 I have ever played although I was hoping to have a crack at the original P90 version of the guitar. (I grew up on the sound of that instrument.)
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It has jumbo frets and weighs 5.6 lbs. Originally Posted by Greentone
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I wonder if Gibson should just do like some bicycle manufacture's and simply sell direct. You call and order or buy what you want. If it has to be made you put a money ahead of time and then get a timeframe. So you work in batches and it could work. You get order of say 5 Super400 and make the batch. The customer pays for shipping and taxes you get the standard model no exceptions unless you pay completely in advance. Gibson then knows how many they will sell and the price with markup. I think Benedetto does that. No middle person no interference from music stores and basically if you have a Music Store you better be able to service and repair.
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Any properly routed America made Strat or Tele can easily be made into a "Wesmo". I did just that to my limited edition 1995 American Standard Stratocaster:
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Deacon your future company demanded a 100% markup on my Solid Formed, which is why it sat unsold for 5 years in all its unbound pickguard, $7,000 Glory..
Sam Ash paid $3,500 for that guitar.
Let the music stores sell Epiphones.
Everybody wins.
Imagine, a new L5 for $6,875. That includes a 25% factory markup. Let me help you design a UPS proof case. The person who drops or abuses the carton gets dog shit exploded on them.
Bring back the real Sonomatics.
Hire Marc Campellone as your plant manager.
Then after he straightens things out, hire Vinny as your PR Guy.
This could work.
(Please remember my tailpiece.. luv you man..)Last edited by Max405; 08-18-2020 at 01:22 PM.
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GT’s memory is the only one in existence that has a scale built into it. Originally Posted by ThatRhythmMan
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Stringswinger,
That's my favorite color for a Strat-Wesmo. I used to own a 1965 Stratocaster in Sherwood Green Metallic that looked just like that body color. It was my first Fender electric. I would swear that the custom color made the guitar play better.
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My guitar's finish is "Ocean Turquoise" which is pretty similar to "Sherwood Green Metallic". My favorite Fender finish however is "Lake Placid Blue". Originally Posted by Greentone
Stringswinger,
That's my favorite color for a Strat-Wesmo. I used to own a 1965 Stratocaster in Sherwood Green Metallic that looked just like that body color. It was my first Fender electric. I would swear that the custom color made the guitar play better.
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agree ss...nothin beats lake placid blue with rosewood board..tele, strat etc...that's fine art! hah Originally Posted by Stringswinger
cheers
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After the gale wind force of this thread encourages Gibson to finally do the right thing and release that mythical WesMo ES-175, I'd like to suggest that they slide the pickup an inch or two north, cuz that's where the mellow is and my pick isn't.
Not holding my breath though...
Man, I like dreaming.
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The key questions between laminates and carved.
The Wesmo model coming out of the Es-175 or 165 would be a L-4 with one pickup. That is really unseen. And i would be interested on it.
I played a Wesmo Super400 in Tokyo a few years ago, it was a Super400 with original floating pickup that was reformed into it an a set pickup was installed. I remember it liking it very much.
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