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Religion is the virus of the people, isn't it? I also have this one in store, if you prefer, it's in excellent health
Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
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02-02-2020 03:29 PM
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I see what you did there...Corona Jazz Band Virus. Yeah...
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I have pencil GAS. At work we have a box full of the cheapest pencils money can buy. They suck sooo hard. The lead is off center in the wood in many of them. You have to go hunting for one that can be sharpened. And I think the 'wood' is some sort of fibrous plastic. And don't get me started on the 'eraser'. It's really a smudger.
Not all pencils are created as equals.
Patloch: Off Topic: Old Typewriters
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indeed interesting thread! I like mechanicals because the point is always sharp. But I tend to erase and rewrite a fair amount, so I use a plastic engineering graphics eraser that I've had for EVER... it's GREAT at removing graphite without damaging the paper. I lost the cardboard wrapper long ago but IIRC it's a Staedtler Mars Plastic eraser. IDK whether the ones made today (vinyl) are comparable in softness to this ancient eraser from decades ago - I haven't had any issues with tearing paper, as the following video indicates, but maybe that's because I'm using music manuscript instead of engineering drafting paper.
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02-02-2020, 04:19 PM #30joelf Guest
So no SharpWriter or general mechanical pencil fans here?
I'm disapernted!! (disappointed?)
Excuse me while I go blubber awhile...
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Fortunately for me I do not suffer from eraser GAS, as I have a couple of those decades old white Staedtlers myself. And I'm glad I do considering how crappy the ones on the end of those cheap-ass pencils I mentioned are.
I like that eraser shield thing. Sadly, top notch drafting seems to be another skill being killed off by the computer. I rarely see hand-drawn architecturals in my line of work anymore. I remember a time when that was pretty much all I ever saw.
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On this side of the pond a rubber is something entirely different. I can assure you that cars over here do not ride on prophylactics either :-)
Of course, these days none of the items have much to do with actual rubber anyway. Isn't that something in the card game Bridge?
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Me too. Funny that my #1s seem to get traded out for my daughter’s #2s. I guess that should be happy that she hasn’t confiscated any of my shirts (yet.) Maybe we should just be a #1 household.
Originally Posted by Longways to Go
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That’s my line of work. When I do any hand sketching I usually do very light pencil lines first and then go over them with markers and eventually erase the pencil lines. It is just easier to get a variety of line weights that survive scanning that way. If I need to do any type of shading I do it with marker stipulating. All that said, my sketches are rarely for full on presentation purposes. Sometimes but very infrequently these days.
Originally Posted by ccroft
Edit: I could go back and describe days of mechanical pencils, vellum, Mylar, ink, etc. and whole manual drafting era, but it is kind of pointless these days. The only real remnant is my hand lettering. Mine has retained the discipline that I learned far back. A lot of people these days never went that far with that skill.
Edit 2: Stippling, gd spell check.Last edited by lammie200; 02-02-2020 at 07:25 PM.
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Sketching ability is really handy. I've lost it for the most part due to decade or 2 of CAD. I really respect people who can do it. I remember a site meeting where the contractor and I were trying to resolve a millwork/carpentry conflict. He and I were going over the 'blueprints' side by side. The architect came by and sketched a perfect isometric showing the solution from the other side of the table. Upside down! We were pretty amazed. A Mozart of the pencil.
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On a related front: "The Sure Hit Songwriter's Pen"
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"real men" use oil...haha
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cheers
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02-02-2020, 06:24 PM #38joelf Guest...and oil paint contains lead...
Originally Posted by neatomic
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02-02-2020, 06:29 PM #39joelf Guest
What would Bob Dylan think of this thread?
'Come writers and poets who prophesise with your pen'...
Or Stevie Wonder?
'....A writer takes his pen...'
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Yeah but how easy is it to tune up.?
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Sorry, ccroft, I rubbed out my post for fear of offending someone...
Originally Posted by ccroft
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Don’t know but I believe he is a prolific painter of the canvas type.
Originally Posted by joelf
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dylan liked the typer...

no doubt he liked the key clacking rhythms
cheers
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02-02-2020, 07:57 PM #44joelf GuestAs is 'Antonio Benedetti'...
Originally Posted by lammie200
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Turns out I was using a sakura sumo grip pencil. It's nice. Enough so that it warrants a whole damn 12 minute review.
As type writers go, I'm more of a giant art Deco royal/Underwood sort of person, but even Olivettis and some ibms look pretty neat. Never used one, though.
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There's an old line about Hollywood screenwriters: "schmucks with Underwoods."
Originally Posted by feet
There's also a "Writer" cap that's logo is in the old Courier font, once the default for writers. (It was the easiest font for editors to read.) -----These caps are usually black with the logo in white.
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It still is the default font for screenwriting, because the spacing stays the same or whatever. Don't ask me how I know, or what all those notes I took with a pencil were for.

Though they've probably been updated to schmucks with macbooks now
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We also should hear about the pink perfect attendance pencil.
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I've also been a Rotring man for many years. Go Rotring!
Originally Posted by Spook410
Wiki says: "602 possessed the unique softness and smoothness of a 3B/4B lead but with the rate-of-wear of an HB."
Hmmm...any other products with the same spec?Last edited by Hammertone; 02-03-2020 at 08:27 PM.



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