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fender solid state? sure. some better than others, what are you looking at?
flatwound strings also aren't necessary for jazz, but a lot of folks like 'em, me included. basically the string is wound with a ribbon of metal as opposed to a round wire that wraps forming the little grooves you feel. flatwounds are very smooth, and have basically no squeak whn changing positions. they're a little darker in tone, and they lack some of the higher harmonics that come thru on roundwounds, which can make complex chords sound a little more "dissonant." those dissonances are quelled with flatwounds.
those above properties make them desirable for jazz, and again, particularly desirable on a brighter voiced guitar ike a tele. try a set out, you might like them...d'addairo chromes are a readily available and cheap option as far as flats go.
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01-03-2010 05:43 PM
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Squier produced a nice thinline tele for a while with a 24 and 3/4 set in neck and humbuckers - I played one and loved it. Wished I had bought it now. All the right measurements but with a tele radiused neck.
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I heard Squier may be bringing back those thinlines...don't know about the scale, though.
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Speaking of telecasters, do you guys think around $600 CDN is a bit much for a new MIM tele? I'm wanting a tele but I thought the price range for Mexicans was more in the ~$400 zone.
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Speaking from the UK, I would love those prices compared to what we pay.
With Fender I always think, "What would the Gibson cost me" and they start to look cheap that way.
A recent article in Guitarist magazine also showed that lots of pro musicians find telling the difference between a MIM and MIA Fender worked out at 60:40 in favour of the MIA.
Fender are without doubt less hyped up in cost.
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recently put Joe Bardens into my GE Smith telecaster , found the sweet spot with the neck pickup and rolled off tone knob , coming through my roland cube 60 is all i need,
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There is a MIM Squire Tele with humbuckers hanging in the local Guitar Center for cheapo prices. Just can't face the MRS with another guitar purchase right now.
I have a Tele with SD hotrail pickups that sounds GREAT. And a stock Strat with maple neck that is very hot, ringy, bright, and after playing the Tele with those smooth sounding pickups I don't like listening to the Strat as much. If I haven't played for a day or so and pick the Strat up it sounds OK, then I'll put it down and pick up the Tele and go WOW - this is more like it.
Ron
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The L&M near me has a lovely sunburst MIM Tele going used for $350. Nice neck, but it needs a setup.
Originally Posted by Space Pickle
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I'll have to toss a set of flatwound strings on my G&L ASAT and give it a test run. Interesting idea. Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
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I have to try that again. I used to play flatwounds all the time. When I was teaching kids I would set them up with flatwounds even on acoustic guitars because it was so much easier on the little fingers.
Somehow along the way I got switched over to roundwounds, probably for the tone - anyway gonna try flatwounds again.
Ron
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I have have a fender strat and a G and L tele, and have played jazz gigs on the tele, but never on the strat. The tele is set up for it with .013 strings and has a great sound for jazz, I think, especially with these P90-type stock G and L pickups it has. Played through the right amp it sounds plenty jazz. It's also way more versatile than my strat.
I have been asking myself this question though, since I recently sold my only archtop, an Eastman John Pisano. I hate to admit it, but the main argument for that guitar (aside from my playing mostly acoustic) was the look of it, and I used it mainly for "fancy" gigs and weddings when I was not playing acoustic. My tele is sort of homely looking. Of course, it's beautiful to me.
Mike
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and check this You tube link.....
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many many great players who play on both for jazz. 1st example that comes to mind is ed bickert. nuff said
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03-01-2010, 08:30 AM #64zz5555 GuestHow "hot" are the Bardens? I have a hollow Warmoth tele with a mahogany body that I always wanted to set up for jazz and tha Laces that are currently in it don't seem to have enough oomph. I always need to dial it up pretty high and pick hard to get a useable sound out of it. I have Harmonic Design's Super 90 and Super Chrome in a 52RI tele and they're nice and loud and sound great. I was going to try them in the Warmoth, but always wanted to try the Bardens. However, at $300 a set, it seems like an expensive experiment. But if they're pretty hot I might give them a try. Originally Posted by zovanou
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Sure would and have. A Baja Player's Tele, actually. Some gigs come with an expectation of a certain look (like expecting the bassist to have an upright). I swear, most of the people I've encountered on the listening side of those types of dates couldn't tell one type of axe from another if they were blindfolded. Plus, in really bad weather, I'm not dragging out one my pretty valuable (and dear) hollowbodies, even for a high-society (and high-expectation) date.
People as diverse as Van Halen and Van Eps have said your tone is in your fingers. I'd tend to agree.
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My "Frankie" Tele has a solid Rosewood neck and a "Joe barden" PU in the neck position. it sounds a lot like one of Ed Bickerts' Telecasters.
wiz
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Lol, this guy is called Leigh Jackson. He's an Englishman living in Wellington New Zealand. When I go up to Wellington I always have lessons with him.. Great guy and player. Originally Posted by kempini
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03-03-2010, 01:39 AM #68zz5555 GuestI like Bickert so that sounds good. I'll look more seriously into the Bardens. Originally Posted by wizard3739
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definatly a tele.
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I just did a jazz gig with my EJ Strat on Valentine's Day, just me, a keyboard player and a singer. I have Kinmans on my Strat and plug into a Polytone MBV. Very nice tone. I'm switching (my ax is in the shop right now) to SD HotRails for the bridge and middle pups and an SD Coolrail for the neck pup, though. If for some reason they don't work out though, I'll switch back and you'll see the SD's on Ebay.
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03-06-2010, 01:12 PM #71TommyD Guest
Ed Bickert played jazz on a tele for 35 years!
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That's funny. I play whatever I want on my Tele. It's my only electric. It was the only guitar in my price range that I could get used to. Maybe when I'm done with school I'll spring for an archtop. Originally Posted by Funkwire
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03-06-2010, 07:03 PM #73zz5555 GuestThe first guitar I bought was a Strat back in '88. For a couple decades, it was the only guitar that I used. I also had a '67 Rickenbacker, but could never get used to the neck. I finally traded the Rickenbacker in on a Tele and I had no problem with that neck (I now have 3 Teles and no problems with their necks). Last year, I bought a Les Paul and just can't get used to the neck, so I'm preparing to sell it. I don't seem to do any better with other Gibson necks - I think I'm stuck with Fenders (though I might have to try an Ibanez as their necks seem closer to Fender's). I'm planning on building a thinline tele to serve as a semi-hollow. I'm no great shakes as a player, though, so I don't think the world will miss much if it can't hear me on an archtop. Originally Posted by zonedout245
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03-07-2010, 05:05 AM #74Archie Guest
I attended a guitar workshop with Mike Stern on Friday evening. He was playing what I would call jazz on a Yamaha Tele-style guitar, with lots of chorus, reverb, and delay. Somebody asked him "how many guitars do you have?" and he replied "One." The questioner then asked, "how about at home?" and he replied again, with a big smile, "One."
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That's quite surprising. I'm sure he can afford another one..
wonder what he does if something goes wrong on the gig? I mean I have only ever seen him with his signature guitar but still.
BTW, apparently he doesn't use chorus but use a harmonizing feature on his Yamaha SPX unit and splits stereo. This is how he gets his often wrongly referred 'chorus' sound.
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