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  1. #26

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    They sound a little different, but if I didn't know it was two guitars I could easily believe it's the same guitar with the tone controls set differently. I'm tempted to say the first is the Wu because it's more scooped sounding, and Wu/Yunzhi/Eastman have a reputation for a more flattop-like sound than Gibsons. But I have no idea whether that reputation is applicable to this guitar. I guess I slightly prefer the warmer tone of the second, but I'd have to have the guitar in hand to know which I like more. Bottom line? Shrug, you got me.

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    One variable not mentioned is the pick. May I assume that the same pick was used with both guitars? Different picks can produce very different tones.

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    Sgosnell: I play fingerstyle.

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    Recording 2 is definitely the L5CES.

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    Absolutely gorgeous playing throughout. Really impressive and more important, really enjoyable. I thought the sounds were quite different and I liked both equally. I liked the high end shimmer in the first one and the warmer tones in the second. If you were making an album, I think these guitars would give a nice contrast to each other while both serve your playing very well. Really enjoyed listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavo Eiriz
    Both are carved archtops: spruce top and maple back and rims.
    3 piece maple neck and ebony fingerboard.
    What somesaid about the difference between pickup is the real issue in this test.



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    Not sure if you really could call a L5 neck 3 piece maple. After all it accommodates three larger pieces of maple and two narrower pieces of walnut.

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    Ok. Since there seems to be a very clear preference for the second one i reveal which guitar it is.
    It is Mr. Wu L-5 copy.
    At the begining of the video a record a few seconds of the acoustic tone of the guitar played with pick and fingerstyle.. And afyer that the tune that i uploaded before recorded via DI to the soundboard.
    I dont know if it is the pickup or what but it seems to me to sound better than the real L-5.
    Cheers



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavo Eiriz
    Ok. Since there seems to be a very clear preference for the second one i reveal which guitar it is.
    It is Mr. Wu L-5 copy.
    At the begining of the video a record a few seconds of the acoustic tone of the guitar played with pick and fingerstyle.. And afyer that the tune that i uploaded before recorded via DI to the soundboard.
    I dont know if it is the pickup or what but it seems to me to sound better than the real L-5.
    Cheers

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    Reverse the pickups (put the 57 classic in the L-5 and put the T-top in the Wu) and I think your preference (as will the preference of the rest of us) will change.

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    OK.. that was kinda fun.

    Thanks for taking the trouble to do this Gustavo.

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    That was edifying, regardless the lovely playing.
    Thank you for posting this, Gustavo.

  12. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpguitar
    I'm going to go out on a limb and state that the first guitar is the Gibson.
    Thank you, thank you... I'll see myself out.

  13. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpguitar
    Thank you, thank you... I'll see myself out.
    We can leave together. The pickup is what gave it away, right?

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    Wu's guitars do have some issues with details, frets, nuts, and such, but he does know how to carve a top. From numerous threads on this forum, Gibson also has issues with the details. My latest Wu required some work on the nut, but otherwise it's fine, a great guitar acoustically and amplified. I've quit playing my Benedettos. I don't believe swapping pickups will have a dramatic effect on Gustavo's guitars, but I would be interested in hearing them after a swap, just for my own edification.

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    FWIW, I could be a happy man with either guitar. I WOULD be a happier man if I could play like Gustavo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    Wu's guitars do have some issues with details, frets, nuts, and such, but he does know how to carve a top. From numerous threads on this forum, Gibson also has issues with the details. My latest Wu required some work on the nut, but otherwise it's fine, a great guitar acoustically and amplified. I've quit playing my Benedettos. I don't believe swapping pickups will have a dramatic effect on Gustavo's guitars, but I would be interested in hearing them after a swap, just for my own edification.
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    Carving the top is the most complicated part of making the guitar in a sense. A proper nut, frets, and details are things that should be done without question. It makes no sense to me but I am not Mr Wu. I do have also mention that getting the neck on the guitar either dovetail or mortise and tenon is another complicated part, at least you got to get the neck angle correct. Carving the top is where the " real art is" because that requires more than just science and dimensions.

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    The neck angle is fine on all the specimens I've seen, and I now own two. I don't know if he has someone else doing the fretting and nut work, or if he just hurries it. I know his wife does the inlay work, and is very, very good at it, for a really low price. And as I said, Gibson seems to turn out unbelievably amateurish fret and nut work now and then.

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    Sounds great, to me. Absolutely beautiful guitar, Gustavo. You’re a fantastic player, as well.

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    Any interest in doing this comparison with a Fender Tube Amp??

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    Yes, should i send you the raw files?
    Give me your email please.
    Thanks.

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  21. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gustavo Eiriz
    Yes, should i send you the raw files?
    Give me your email please.
    Thanks.

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    Sorry I don't have the gear to do reamping and recording.
    My experience is the DI/mic-pre could sound very different from a guitar amp.

    Anyone else????

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    I've now had my Wu for nearly one year. I intended it to be, from the start, an acoustic, non-amplified instrument and to that point I must say I'm more impressed with it today than I am when I first received it. It rings like a bell and is very "big" in sound when played that way - yet still can be controlled to a sotto voce. Although the sound became its best when switched to D'Addario nickle wound from the bronze (IMHO).

    Gustavo thanks for the comparison - well done and lovely playing.

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    I too like the D'Addario pure nickel strings. Bronze is too bright, whether phosphor or 80/20 or whatever. I intended for mine to be mostly, if not entirely, amlified, but I find that I like the acoustic sound a lot, and play it that way often. But the amplified sound, via a DeArmond Rhythm Chief, is sublime, IMO. Mine is somewhat thin, at 2-3/8", or 61mm, so it's not really designed as an acoustic, but even at that depth it sounds very good. If I ever have to sell my guitars, it will be among the last to go. It doesn't have the sentimental value of some, but it has the sound and the feel. I would sell my Benedettos first.

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    I have a ‘70 L5 and despite having had 14 guitars at a time I ended selling almost all of them because I just like the L5 so much more than anything else. So having put a ton of time in on that instrument it was clear that number 1 was the L5. Even without that, the ‘57 classic has a very different sound than T-tops (although the earlier T-tops can be misleading to people if they are used to the sound of the more common later ones) and as others have said here that alone gives it away. I think the Wu sounds great and it would pass as an L-5 to a lot of people. If the two guitars had the same pickups they might have been indistinguishable because of how you recorded this. I think based on some of the comments that hearing it played fingerstyle, which gives a different sound than with a pick, might have thrown some people off too. The ‘70 L5 can get bright and depending on the fingerstyle technique can get brighter than some might associate with an L-5. It was interesting regardless and I enjoyed your playing as well.


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