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Charlie Christian Pickups - CC Pickups
Does anyone know if these guys are still in business? I emailed, no response...
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05-14-2018 03:35 PM
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According to Google the site hasn't been updated since December 18th, 2006 and they don't seem to have any other online presence so probably not.
How long ago did you email though? If it's some guys side business / hobby it could take them a while to get back.
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Dutch luthier Daniel Slaman has used these PUs a lot in recent years. Maybe you could e-mail him and ask.
OT: I'm still happy with the P-350 you made for me about five years ago.
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Originally Posted by Haydon
It's been about a week, but good point
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Originally Posted by oldane
Dutch luthier Daniel Slaman has used these PUs a lot in recent years. Maybe you could e-mail him and ask.
OT: I'm still happy with the P-350 you made for me about five years ago.
Good to hear!
I'll drop Daniel a line, great guitars. Everything he does is right up my alley.
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Just in case of interest
JAG guitar pickups Hand built and wound.
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Pete Biltoft made this pickup for me about 10 years ago but I never really took the time to investigate all the possibilities back then. I can't remember what the winding wire is but there are several sets of magnets that go with it. The idea is that the magnets can be moved around on the steel plate to change the field. It fits in a more or less standard humbucker rout.
Here it is in a franken guitar I whipped up.
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Wow, I didn't realize the CC UK pickup had been around that long, I thought it was a newer thing....
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I had peter Biltoft make a Double CC floater, exact dimensions of the Kent Armstrong 12 pole peice it replaced on my Elferink Archtop. Love it and no noise!
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I got one in 2016. It did take a while for it to arrive.
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What are your thoughts? Any better than the 3-point mount Lollar? Originally Posted by icr
I have the Lollar CC humbucker mount and have had every variation of Biltoft's HCC pickups. All are great, just don't want to miss a "holy grail." haha
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When it comes to Holy Grail in CC PU, why not ask to the Pope himself ? I mean Daniel Slaman. Originally Posted by Tom Painter
Here is his jugement:
Cheers.
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Yeah, I watched that several times before. It's hard to hear a difference from the recording.
Fred, your vids are fantastic BTW
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[QUOTE=Tom Painter;870834]Yeah, I watched that several times before. It's hard to hear a difference from the recording.
Fred, your vids are fantastic BTW/QUOTE]
Hey Tom,
I agree that they are almost impossible to distinguish. On this vid clip, I prefer the model from CC PU UK. I feel more presence in the sound, although the Lollar is also very good. But it might just be related to the guitar itself that could be more resonant then the first one used by Daniel.
If you like my vids you must be nut about CC PUs! I am glad if I can spread and share my love for these PUs. These first mics produced by Gibson were winners.
Cheers.
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Oh, yes I'm a big fan of the CC. There's no reason to play anything else if you want to sound good. lol
One of the best jazz guitar noises ever here:
What's interesting is that there sounds like a little tube edge to the tone but he's playing through a big 'ol Polytone, it's the pickup!
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As far as I know the only replica ES-150 pickup is the CC Pickup from the UK. The other "Charlie Christian" pickups on the market are as far from the original as this is from a "PAF." Originally Posted by Tom Painter
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Just heard back from Daniel Slaman, he said the last contact he had with CC Pickups was about a year ago...so...probably not looking too good at this point.
I ordered the Lollar 3-point just for jollies. I'll get the CC too if the guy ever responds!
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ITS ALIVE!
Finally heard back from Colin at CC Pickups, I have one of those on the way now too.
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Great! You've solved one mystery (whether Colin is still making CC Pickups), and after you have both pickups, perhaps give us more insight into another mystery -- how the Lollar 3 point compares to the CC Pickups. Originally Posted by Tom Painter
BTW, I have a Seymour Duncan 3 point and an original 30's CC pickup. I put the Duncan 3 point on a 28 L-4 and the original is stock on the late 30's ES-150 it came on. In general, I actually prefer the Duncan/L-4 setup.
But one thing about the Duncan 3 point -- mine doesn't have the cobalt magnets on the bottom perpendicular to the pickup like the original pickup. It has two metal bars that look like the original magnets, but the actual magnet is in the pickup as in most pickups. With that said, it has the look and fit of an original, and to my ears, a viable old school CC pickup sound. Like I said, for general use, I actually prefer the Duncan to the original: less muddy and louder. Now this could be the guitar, but I think it has more to do with it being a newer pickup rather than one that's nearly 70 years old.
I don't know if Duncan still makes these pickups. Mine was #3 of his batch and it was made January 2006.
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lollar cc is a direct fit replacement for vintage cc...but it is completely different build..he doesnt use the two large (but weak) magnets that extend beneath the top..but rather uses acrylic sheets, just for mounting purposes...a completely different design...
every part of the original cc was important to why it sounded like it did...why the uk cc repros are the most vintage accurate
cheers
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Man, given how touch-and-go CC pickups UK is, I should probably order one or two to keep as back ups should they ever close up shop....
Actually, I already have a spare UK made CC Pickup with a B notch that I bought years ago to put in a guitar and never used it, but perhaps it'd be a good idea to get another just in case.
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So is Daniel not sourcing the UK made CC pickups any longer for his builds?
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Or he sourced so many that he had a stock for quite some time.
Sendt fra min SM-G935F med Tapatalk Originally Posted by stringmaster
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Just looking at Daniel's website it appears there may be someone else in the mix making pickups, but he doesn't sell parts
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Don't forget that the cobalt magnets in the original CC pickups are not magnetically stable and degauss over time. They do not sound like they did 70-80 years ago, so comparisons to modern variants are not going to be accurate with respect to the tone as originally intended. The new pickups might actually sound closer to the original tone.
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