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    in recent fusion thread, was just saying my fave tones always came from a great distortion box into a relatively big clean loud amp...(like a fender twin)

    this vid of the new origins effects revival drive is exactly on point...tremendous range of tones...and through a 60's twin

    nice demo/review (per usual) from pro lance keltner




    origin effects is great pedal company out of the uk...they won huge acclaim for their line of great compressor pedals...revival drive is great new addition..seemingly complicated, but great sounding...

    i like options

    always strive for the infinite

    cheers

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    Way too many knobs.

    Big box RAT and be done with it.

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    hah..well its competing against digital preamp/overdrives with their myriad of parameters...which also have steep learning curve...the origin effects is analog

    yes will certainly not interest the single knobbers...haha



    cheers
    Last edited by neatomic; 04-08-2018 at 08:39 PM.

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    Back in the day as a gigging metal guitarist, a Les Paul into a Butler Tube Driver into a clean and very loud 71 Bassman 100 was my basic rig. Obviously wasn't that versatile, but with a volume pedal, I got a good range of usable tones.

    That thing has more switches than my amp. Phew!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neatomic
    hah..well its competing against digital preamp/overdrives with their myriad of parameters...which also have steep learning curve...the origin effects is analog

    yes will certainly not interest the single knobbers...haha



    cheers
    Fuzz is not overdrive.

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    Tube Screamer with bass switch and more gain (1M gain pot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Fuzz is not overdrive.
    egad.. i was just using the colorsound for one knob pictorial effect!!!


    but any pedal that overloads the pre amp circuit of an amp can be classified as fuzz, distortion, overdrive, boost etc...it's just a name...it all depends on the gain & tone structure...there are overdrive pedals that have more gain than vintage fuzzes...and there are overdrives that color tone less than boosts...there's a lot more to it than just the name...such as what it actually does!

    but anyways, enough semantics

    back to the op..which i tongue in cheekly called the ultimate..and with question mark?...obviously not for everybody!! esp single knob &*$% pedal users


    cheers


    ps- btw, here's how sweetwater currently labels the rat pedal ^

    Pro Co Rat 2 Distortion / Fuzz / Overdrive Pedal

    Pro Co Rat 2 Distortion / Fuzz / Overdrive Pedal | Sweetwater
    Last edited by neatomic; 04-08-2018 at 08:50 PM.

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    Looks (and sounds) like a very interesting pedal. I'm pretty sure some fusiony delights could be conjured. Conjuring the $659 would be a stretch for me at this time. Off to the not-too-obvious transparent justification lab for some R&D!

    Hmmmm.... I'm thinking "big sounds at a low volume - no more plaster cracking, glassware shattering emanations from k's room."
    That might work.

    Now for the 60's Twin....

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    Not sure if the ultimate OD pedal exists since it seems each guitarist has their own personal favorite. I'd never buy a pedal with gobs of knobs such as the 'Revival Drive' in the op.

    I own a couple of Ibanez Tube Screamers and a White Face Rat Reissue.

    However my favorite...for now...is an original Hermida Zendrive. Its simple, easy to dial in great 'Dumble-esque' tones and sounds great with any amp.

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    I must have about a dozen of dirt pedals around. An Eternity, Zendrive, Timmy, RC Booster, Rat, couple of Mad Professor ones, an Analogman fuzz, a few more. My favorite is this, 2 channels, small footprint, sounds really great with anything, does overdrive, distortion, boost and a kind of fuzz!

    Blackstone Appliances - maker of the Blackstone Mosfet Overdrive

    personally any pedal loses me at about 4 knobs and up...

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    My favorite guitar as of now and for 2 years,(it is a great guitar) cost less than that pedal.

    If you have all your lessons down, and your practicing is complete, and you need more knobs to tweak, to sound this way or that ....
    Go for it.

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    I have a wealthy student who bought one of the new Fender Pugilist distortion pedals and got one for me too. I have to say it is one of the most versatile distortion/overdrive pedals I’ve owned. It’s two pedals in one, gain A being an overdrive and gain B being distortion. With the blend knob it covers a very wide range of sounds. But better than that it just sounds great, whatever the settings; very natural sounding (no buzziness) with a distinctively Fender vibe.

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    I haven't found an overdrive pedal I like more than a plain and simple Maxon OD808. Great pedal, great classic sound.

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    Harley Benton American TrueTone – Thomann UK

    They're even cheaper than Joyo branded ones !

    Probably the same pedal , anyone tried one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingu
    Harley Benton American TrueTone – Thomann UK

    They're even cheaper than Joyo branded ones !

    Probably the same pedal , anyone tried one ?
    I've only tried the Joyo version, which is identical. I use it in a headphones/recording rig I have just put together (i.e. no amp). However I run it clean and derive my overdrive sounds from one of 2 Wampler pedals in front of it. Although the American supposedly has a cab emulated output - that part really isn't that good, hence I also use a Digitech CabDryVR for the cab emulation - essential with overdrive without a cab.

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    I have a modded TS-9 (modded to 808 spec) and a Zendrive clone called the Everything Zen. The TS-9 is what really does it for me. I use the EZ with the gain set very low on straight ahead stuff just to give things a little "pushed" sound when I turn up. The Screamer is mainly for fusion and rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Way too many knobs.

    Big box RAT and be done with it.
    + 1 on too many knobs.

    I've had a lot of OD pedals over the years (off top of my head, 10 of 'em), and still have a few (Fulltone OCD, Butler Real Tube, Danelectro Daddy O, T-Rex Crunchy Frog). Over the last maybe seven or eight years, I've really only used the OCD. For me it hits the sweet spot in terms of the trade-offs between simplicity /adjustability and transparency/coloration. One of these days, I'll try a RAT, but for some reason have never gotten a round to-it.

    John

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    Wayyyy too many knobs ... and they don‘t even make sense to me ... I‘m out. I have waaay too many pedals in the first place.

    Quoting Mr B „versatility is overrated“. All one needs is a few sounds one likes (I am bad in following my own advice). Tone icon David Gilmour has been using Tube Drivers as his only dirt pedals for decades now (he is on record saying that he hasn‘t used a Muff in more than 20 years) and he gets so many awesome tones from dark to smooth to bright ... and this thing only has four knobs (granted he apparently is using three Tube Drivers in his setup).

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    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    + 1 on too many knobs.

    I've had a lot of OD pedals over the years (off top of my head, 10 of 'em), and still have a few (Fulltone OCD, Butler Real Tube, Danelectro Daddy O, T-Rex Crunchy Frog). Over the last maybe seven or eight years, I've really only used the OCD. For me it hits the sweet spot in terms of the trade-offs between simplicity /adjustability and transparency/coloration. One of these days, I'll try a RAT, but for some reason have never gotten a round to-it.

    John
    I have a Daddy-O and consider it an under-appreciated gem. The 3-band EQ and independent drive and volume controls allow a wide range of tones. Add a no treble-loss volume control guitar and a tube amp set to the sweet-spot (a Deluxe Reverb Re-issue, for instance) and you've got a versatile tone-production unit. Clean-to-mean-and-"all-points-in-between," as Senor Tone once said.
    Last edited by citizenk74; 04-11-2018 at 05:17 PM. Reason: Dropped clause

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    Not so long ago I invested in a Line 6 Helix LT - I hope I don't sound too much of a smart-arse if I say that has become my ultimate overdrive pedal, particularly using the Klon pedal model going into the Litigator (i.e. Dumble-style) amp model. But before I got this kit, I did go through a period of buying and selling a variety of overdrive pedals, trying to get closer to the sound I was after - the best result I got was a Turbo RAT style pedal (i.e. a cheap Chinese clone) on moderate drive settings, cascaded into a DopeFX Black Lotus, which is a modified Zen Drive type, with additional mosfet clipping mode, made by a small volume British pedal maker. This has a mosfet clipping mode, that just has an extra silky, smooth, warm, quality. Anyhow, although I'm not using it since going Helix, I still think enough of the Black Lotus to not be remotely contemplating selling it.

    the ultimate overdrive pedal?-zafntpg-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizenk74
    I have a Daddy-O and consider it an under-appreciated gem. The 3-band EQ and independent drive and volume controls allow a wide range of tones. Add a no treble-loss volume control guitar and a tube amp set to the sweet-spot (a Deluxe Reverb Re-issue, for instance) and you've got a versatile tone-production unit. Clean-to-mean-and-"all-points-in-between," as Senor Tone once said.
    I haven't used the Daddy O in a long while, but I did get a lot of use out of it. I should probably try it again.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. beaumont
    Way too many knobs.

    Big box RAT and be done with it.
    too many .. come on now...with all the combo switches I count 22...the demo vid does sound good..but by the time you get the tone you REALLY want..the band went home..

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    there's also the ethos pedal:


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    Quote Originally Posted by jzucker
    there's also the ethos pedal:

    Wow, too many knobs AND too many switches!

    John

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    Not if you want a dumble in a box. Sometimes it's actually complicated to get the "right" sound. You think holdsworth got his sound with just a princeton and a tele?

    Quote Originally Posted by John A.
    Wow, too many knobs AND too many switches!

    John