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- 16 or 17 inch width
- 1 11/16th inch nut
- 2 3/4ths or 3 inch depth
- 24.75 scale length
- Fixed neck humbucker
- Laminate
- Some kind of neck inlay (dot or something else)
The Sadowsky Bruno has most of these specs but 14 3/4ths width body.
The Sadowsky Jim Hall has most of these specks but 1 3/4ths nut and no inlay.
The Sadowsky LS-17 has most of these specs but 1 3/4ths nut and no inlay.
The Benedetto Bravo has most of these specs but 2 1/2th depth and 1 3/4ths nut and no inlay.
Are there any 'high end' archtops with those specs?
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03-20-2018 01:42 PM
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As you are probably aware, you can order a Bravo with neck inlays. And the nut width you desire as well.
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Guild x175 or x150 or CE100
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I am somewhat embarrassed to say that I did not know that! I know that Sadowsky doesn't allow customization and I hadn't noticed on the Benedetto website that customization is possible. Thanks! Yeah a Bravo with inlays and a 1 11/16th nut might be exactly what I'm looking for.
Originally Posted by SierraTango
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- I think the Bravo is 2.5" deep. Originally Posted by SierraTango
- I think the Fender D'Aquisto Standard meets your specs
- Steve Holst could build you a laminate with your desired specs
- ditto Roger Borys
- ditto Trenier
- you could also try Steve Andersen...maybe he will build you a laminate Vanguard, but FYI last I checked it would not be any less expensive than a normal carved/solid wood Vanguard, which means at least $8K...or about the same price as a Trenier laminate.
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Do you really need the fb inlays, when they are already on the side of it? (Or is it a cosmetic preference?)
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Luthier Stephen Holst (from Oregon) will build one with exactly those specs (laminates are 16" only, however). I ordered a similar one six months ago so I can't comment any further as I don't have it yet. Originally Posted by gavinashun
His charge is $3300 no matter what options you decide on. His plates (which he presses himself) are similar to those of Roger Borys at least according to my conversation with him.
laminated archtop guitar plates for luthiers
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I have firsthand experience with Steve Holst. I had a 16" Holst laminate archtop - it was great. I probably would have kept it if the body depth was deeper and the scale length was longer. My own fault for ordering it at 2.25" deep and 24.4" scale, but I was coming back from an injury so comfort was top priority.
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Looks like the good old Es-175 comes close to what you want...
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That’s what I was thinking, or 165 if he just wants the neck pickup. Or by extension a PM100 for a single neck pickup. If you wanted a 7 string the Ibanez AF207 would check all of those boxes. Only made for a short while but it is a Japanese made Ibanez which makes it as good as any other high end guitar in my book and even has the slightly thinner body you are looking for. Originally Posted by redwater
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Here you go, no affiliation and I think it checks all your boxes.........
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I searched for a year and a half and finally found an H575 with fixed neck HRW pickup, mahogany back/sides and spruce top - couldn't be happier.
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Maybe except for body depth ? Originally Posted by redwater
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Gibson ES-195 for that thinline experience.
Roger Borys for $4800 without a case.
Steve Holst for $3300 with a case.
Ned Whittemore for about $3750 with Roger Borys supplied plates. Kalamazoo K165L | Whittemore Guitars
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Why those particular specs? Originally Posted by gavinashun
See, you gave me the impression that for you to make a guitar is just like to make a meal choosing things from a menu.
If you want a guitar with all the specs you wish, then order one from Mr. Wu and get it over with. Several pretty good campers among the selected crowd of regulars of this very forum. And at least from the looks of'em, there are second to none.
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Is Wu making laminates now? Originally Posted by LtKojak
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That’s be really cool if Mr. Wu did custom laminates. I would be all over that.
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Several reasons: (1) the nut size size + scale size is what I've been playing for 10 years on my Epiphone Joe Pass Emperor II and I know I love those dimensions, (2) I play out and amplified a fair amount (or used to and hope to again soon!) and so feedback minimization is very important to me, hence the laminate and fixed pup spec. The dot inlays is just because I've never had a guitar that didn't have that, so I'm used it it - but I'm sure that would be fine changing, so that is less of a big deal. Originally Posted by LtKojak
And regarding "for you to make a guitar is just like to make a meal choosing things from a menu." What is wrong with this? If I'm paying 5K, I don't think it is unreasonable to want to chose get the specs I prefer? What is weird about that?
And who is Mr. Wu?!?!
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Doesn't the Borys listed above do it for you? I think it's got it all. It's listed in the for sale section with discount for forum members. Great guitar from a builder with a ton of mojo. Like.. it was one of Emily's faves. That's a hell of an endorsement. (i dig your specs BTW)
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How about the new Comins GCS-16-1?
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Yeah - I had never heard of Roger Borys before yesterday. I'm fairly new to the topic of archtop guitars. I know almost everything there is to know about effects pedals, amps, and semi-hollows as I've been playing mostly fusion/funk/blues ... but recently I've gone back to my roots and playing a lot more jazz, so I'm just now schooling myself on archtops. And I've learned SO much in my 2 first threads on here - I really appreciate all the great feedback I've gotten from the community here. Originally Posted by ccroft
Yeah it sounds like the typical Borys B120 is 1.75 inch nut ... but the one listed for sale is 1 23/32 inch neck ... or 1 11.5/16 ... so 0.5/16 too big, so hell no ... jk! Yeah that seems like a very intriguing guitar, very close to my exact specs and seems like this builder has a great rep.
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Yeah, you know, I realized after I posted that my specs are almost exactly ES-175 specs ... maybe the answer is staring me in the face. I don't know - I've played a half dozen ES-175's in stores and always thought they were "good" but to be honest I liked them less than the Epiphone Joe Pass Emperor 2 that I've owned for many years. That said, I think I've only played recent reissues and I'm not sure if I've played a nice quality vintage one. So maybe I should seek that out first or a nice custom shop one, just to see if that is actually what I'm looking for. Originally Posted by redwater
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Roger's guitars are awesome, as Emily Remler & Pat Kelley can demonstrate: Originally Posted by gavinashun
Yeah - I had never heard of Roger Borys before yesterday. I'm fairly new to the topic of archtop guitars. I know almost everything there is to know about effects pedals, amps, and semi-hollows as I've been playing mostly fusion/funk/blues ... but recently I've gone back to my roots and playing a lot more jazz, so I'm just now schooling myself on archtops. And I've learned SO much in my 2 first threads on here - I really appreciate all the great feedback I've gotten from the community here.
Yeah it sounds like the typical Borys B120 is 1.75 inch nut ... but the one listed for sale is 1 23/32 inch neck ... or 1 11.5/16 ... so 0.5/16 too big, so hell no ... jk! Yeah that seems like a very intriguing guitar, very close to my exact specs and seems like this builder has a great rep.
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Dude - thanks for sharing. That rendition of softly was amazing ... I'm like seriously moved over here. I had heard of Emily Remler before but honestly hadn't listened to much of her playing. But that was beautiful. Originally Posted by helios
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