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    Only took me a month to spot it. The binding in the cutaway is slightly discolored by I suspect the finish or lacquer. Hoping you’ll tell me it’s five minutes of rubbing with XYZ. It is off to the luthier to get the nut cut next week anyway.
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    It is buffing compound. It may buff right out but sometimes the buffing compound burns into the lacquer and will never come out.

    Try a mild polishing compound or Virtuoso cleaner.

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    Thank you, Vinny.

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    Not a slight to OP, but guys are we playing these guitars or just oogling them? As much as I appreciate a pretty face, it's the actual function and how it performs that matters. Flaws that are superficial are what make ech guitar special.

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    We have bonded this guitar and I. We do our best to bring the music out of each other but maintaining aesthetics all falls on me.

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    Im oogling it, but that's just because TedBPhx won't ship it to my house for me to play. :lol:

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    Lacquer finishes will tell a story of use. That discolouration is not functionally detrimental, yes buff it out. Maybe the finish spray didn't go on evenly, that's a possibility too. That won't buff out but on the binding, it's no biggie.
    It's gonna get a lot worse from this point on though, outside of the case, use will put a tint to the finish. As the lacquer itself cures and hardens, the use you put into the guitar will show up. You'll get crazing in the finish as the top vibrates within a hardening shell and there's going to be wear every place you put your hands.
    Strings will take all sorts of metal off of the fret wire, your fingers will take wood off the fingerboard, oils will deposit and react with the wood, finish on the back of the neck will lose layers of molecules each time you play a tune.
    I hate to tell you this, but your guitar is aging as we speak; it's dying and if you play it, you'll quicken its demise.

    So stop worrying and get playing. Then you'll have memories of music and you'll see beauty in entropy. That guitar will make you a better musician if you let it, and it can change what you think of as beautiful.

    Just sayin'

    David

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    Guitars are meant to be played but I take very good care of them as I do my wife as they are both very important to me and I cannot live with either. Take care of what takes care of you.

    Ted is just being a good steward with what he has been blessed with. Nothing wrong with that. I am sure he plays it constantly. Taking good care of your axe is right unless it just sits in a glass case. Yes time takes no prisoners but even your 30 year old axe still needs a lot of TLC. We are just temporary owners of these fine instruments.
    It is like taking care of Mother Earth for the next generation.

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    I agree with all of you. This guitar inspires me to hit the books one more time to become the player it deserves. Bargain at any price really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyv1k
    ... they are both very important to me and I cannot live with either.
    Er ... a Freudian slip?

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    If it doesn't scrape off with a buck knife, try #80 sandpaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmic gumbo
    If it doesn't scrape off with a buck knife, try #80 sandpaper.
    You're a patient man CG, I go with the wood rasp or pneumatic jack hammer just so I can get back to my video games quicker. Plus with the jack hammer, the sound is impressive and it impresses the ladies.

    David

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    I’m starting with steel wool.

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    Guitar Players scratch remover works very well and is safe on nitro. Virtuoso cleaner will take it off too or a automotive
    fine cut cleanser. Steel wool will scratch nitro badly.

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    Just kidding! About the steel wool.

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    There is wisdom in your words. By far, most of my purchases have been used guitars, all with signs of use.

    On the other side however, it is disappointing to buy something new that shouldn't have passed the final inspection. This is for a couple of reasons IMO. First, we generally pay more for it to be new. There is a specialness to that quality. Second, it causes an inner repulsion to see an object of beauty leave the factory without appropriate respect due it.

    Yes, guitars are tools or instruments that serve a function. They are also visual art.

    My car is several years old and has some dings on it now. I can assure you that if I picked it up new with those same dings, I'd have rejected it. Functionally it would be the same but it's value would be that of a used car.

    Despite its current dings I wash it. That is to make it look as good as it can, within reason. Why? Just like a guitar, a car is usually more than just a tool. It reflects the person driving it.

    I agree that there are characteristics of each guitar that make each one unique. But I'd prefer these features to be due to nature, not to lapses in quality control. But in any event, it won't make any difference after a couple of years of playing.

    My two cents.

    Quote Originally Posted by jads57
    Not a slight to OP, but guys are we playing these guitars or just oogling them? As much as I appreciate a pretty face, it's the actual function and how it performs that matters. Flaws that are superficial are what make ech guitar special.

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    If it sounds Great and that's all that's 'wrong '...the OP is in great shape on this Guitar.

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    Aesthetics are a secondary consideration for me, but they ARE a consideration.

    My Tele is nothing special to look at, and I don't really care. It's a workhorse instrument. My Ibanez is beautiful, and I'd like to keep it that way as long as I can. But if, in, say, 15 years, it's looking worn, and maybe has a few dings, I won't be too upset, as long as it still sounds good.

    But whenever I start to worry too much about how the guitars look, I think about SRV:

    Gibson ES-175 - Finally spotted a flaw-srv-gif

    Look at that thing. It's beat to hell. But it sure sounded great. Then there's Willie Nelson:

    Gibson ES-175 - Finally spotted a flaw-wn-jpg

    No finish, writing all over it. Even has a hole in it. But I bet Willie'd kill you if you told him he had to give it up.

    So yeah. I like 'em to look nice, but looks ain't everything.

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    Boy, some players would not be in the same room with a few of my gits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robertkoa
    If it sounds Great and that's all that's 'wrong '...the OP is in great shape on this Guitar.
    Yes. Yes I am in great shape. Lost eight pounds this week. Mostly due to a three day colonoscopy prep. As with all good things one must expect a little of the brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedBPhx
    Yes. Yes I am in great shape. Lost eight pounds this week. Mostly due to a three day colonoscopy prep. As with all good things one must expect a little of the brown.
    Mmmmm... Magnesium citrate....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedBPhx
    Yes. Yes I am in great shape. Lost eight pounds this week. Mostly due to a three day colonoscopy prep. As with all good things one must expect a little of the brown.
    Nothing worse than going the wrong way on a one way street. :-)