Nylon string acoustic

[teleman3726]

Guys
Can anyone recommend a nylon string acoustic that I can get ahold of rather quickly (as opposed to ordering it from a luthier and waiting)?
I been through a series of flamenco guitars by 'famed' Spanish luthiers in the $8K plus range but really couldn't get comfortable with the neck, etc.
Perhaps a good crossover?
Thanks.
C

[mr. beaumont]

Jeez, willing to spend 8k and can't find a guitar?

Try a Cordoba...you're not ready to spend 8k.

[teleman3726]

The implication was that I wasn't playing cheapies and didn't like the necks of the traditional flamencos, inter alia. Which is why I suggested crossover as a possibility.
But thanks for the two cents.

[archtopeddy]

Not as inexpensive as a Cordoba, but if you're looking for nylon string guitar friendly to modern steel string acoustic and electric guitar players, you might look at the Taylor NS72ce. It has a cutaway and decent sounding on-board electronics. It ain't exactly cheap either though; while not $8k, it's still over $1k.

[Skip Ellis]

The Cordoba C10 Crossover is pretty nice - I had one and returned it because I just couldn't get comfortable with it - nice guitar, though, at about a grand. Sweetwater usually has them in stock.

[lammie200]

I have a Martin crossover. I like it a lot. Spruce top with sapele sides and back. Richlite fretboard.

[Guitarbean25]

Cervantes crossover...I have one I could sell...

[rio]

How are you ending up with 8k guitars and not being sure about the neck? Buying online without descriptions of the necks or something? Have you played any necks that you do like? It is hard to give a recommendation without knowing what you are looking for. Or was it not the shape of the necks but rather the widths and radii that you didn't like?


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[teleman3726]

The Cervantes caught my eye. I'll drop you a line, GB25. Rio - correct. I wasn't too precise. The width of the neck and radii was fine in most cases, but I also found the neck angle to be a little steep for my liking.
I'll check out the Martin's as well. I've had a D28 for just over ten years now and it seems to be getting better all the time.

[Veritas]

If your funds are not limited, there are two names that come to my mind immediately. Kurt Sand is a renowned luthier who makes classical style guitars with cutaways adapted for amplification onboard. Another is Buscarino, who makes guitars used by Gene Bertoncini. Both of these luthiers make wonderful instruments that are relatively expensive. Although they make commissioned guitars, luthiers occasionally have guitars available for purchase.

On a less lofty level, Taylor and Yamaha make fine classical hybrids with onboard amplification if that is what you are looking for. These instruments are likely much more readily available if time is a factor.

One other thought - there are some great luthiers experimenting with nylon string archtops like Slaman in Europe. They sound like very interesting instruments to investigate.

[teleman3726]

I'd love to have a Buscarino of this sort but really can't find one anywhere. Let me know if I'm missing someone who might have one for sale. I'll check out Kurt Sand.
Thanks.

[Woody Sound]

Are you looking for something with a built-in pickup & preamp/controls? Or purely acoustic?

[Alter]

i ve played the buscarino and it was phenomenal, it could really hold its own compared to expensive classical guitars. BUT, it is an instrument made for electric use, possibly live playing (if you are talking about the small body one).

For 8k most luthiers can build you anything, and many can have the guitar ready in about 3 months or less (that was the case with most spanish luthiers a couple years back at least). If you are particular about neck, width, scale etc, you should really be sure on what you prefer before you choose though, same as the sound of each luthier, because guitars from most famous classical luthiers sound very different from each other, each with a voice of their own.

[teleman3726]

Yes, it would be nice to have the pup/pre-amp built in. I have no problem adding this set up later but it would add to the time to some extent.
Alter: yes, you're right. I've done the custom made thing before (had a Campy built years ago and it's still one of my favorites, as well as a bender by Gene Parsons - when I was into that stuff). But choosing luthiers is not my strong suit when it comes to anything but arch tops.
That's why a Buscarino was so attractive to me when I found out he did a crossover too and read the reviews.
So any help would be appreciated.

[Cavalier]

I played a DuPont I liked a lot. For electric/acoustic Ovation. For bang for the buck in quality, sound and playability Kremona. The Taylors I played didn't have as ,much volume or tone as others. I don't touch 8000 guitars because I'd hate to find out I needed one.

[teleman3726]

Actually, I never thought about a DuPont for anything more than gypsy jazz.
Let me take a look at what he/they have.
Thanks.

[Woody Sound]

Yes, it would be nice to have the pup/pre-amp built in. I have no problem adding this set up later but it would add to the time to some extent.

Full-size body, or thinline? Regular classical neck? Or smaller (1-7/8") and radiused?

[lammie200]

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I'll check out the Martin's as well. I've had a D28 for just over ten years now and it seems to be getting better all the time.

I like mine. Nice Martin quality. It is the only nylon they have been making for the last few years and they pretty much incorporate the same level of quality as their standard line of guitars. It won't break the bank, but lately I have not noticed anything close to the deal that I got on mine. Mine was $1k USD shipped with the case. I am the second owner and the first one barely touched it.

[rlrhett]

I build nylon acoustic archtops. I have posted pictures (my avatar is one) and even a video before, so I won't spam this thread with more. But I'm about six months from order to delivery right now, and the OP said he couldn't wait for a luthier built instrument.

But if you find you have the time....


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[voxss]

bought a HArley Benton Nashville from Thomann...$200...love it to bits