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btw, depending on what you arrange the price you see is definitely not the price I paid and I am sure there are way better deals if you actually call them.
they still have one more in stock :-)
yes I totally agree about the humbuckers not being gas causing - everytime I listen to a 50's jazz record that I am really loving the tone it is with P90 or a CC pickup.
Yes, I know Wes etc. but I really like that slightly thinner sound. Until yesterday I was on the fence with an es330 to get the new P90s that gibson has but I figured this was going to do it since I can't really afford an es175 from the 50's with a p90.
inspiration sounds since I bought it sight unseen
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05-20-2017 08:40 AM
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Any first impressions? Or anyone else who has played one?
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Are G using their old style script logo now ?
Its not a reissue I think either ....
Random
Probably a killer guitar for Jazz and old skool Blues/roots
Doesn't have a block I assume
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The ES-275 is a fairly new invention from Gibson and now they've released a P90s version that looks a lot more old school. I has no block.
Originally Posted by pingu
Here is the humbucker version:
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I was saving for a Gibson Solid Formed archtop. When I saw this thread, that plan flew out the window. I just special-ordered one of these and hope to have it in around three weeks.
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Can a non luthier notice this sort of thing? What are the clues to look for if just picking up a guitar and playing it in a store? Originally Posted by vejesse
Also, have you played any other 275s? Just wondering if the issues with the braces is a common problem, or was it more of a one off on your guitar. I've owned and played many Gibsons over the years so know inconsistencies can occur within the same make and year (Just the other day I was playing two identical, new SJ-200s and one sounded amazing, while the other clearly had issues). I'm curious about the 275 as I played one recently and loved it. It was a pleasure to play. For me the appeal wasn't the smaller body (I'm 6'3" so the large size of the big archtops isn't a problem for me). What I liked was that it seemed more suited to a modern sound.
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MA’,
I looked at two 275s in December and they both had ill-fitted bracing. One extremely so, with sections of a brace completely unattached to the top, and drips of glue all over the place.
No way to tell this without an inspection mirror and light. Better still, pull the PU’s to check the inboard edge as well. Stageringly sloppy work. As if built using a spoon.
Chris
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Very interesting. Thanks for the review (which I missed first time around) and your update. I can see why the bridge would have helped on a guitar like that with a shallow depth. I don’t know if I would ever get one but I’d love to try one some day to see what they feel like.
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I liked my cherry 275. I thought it played well, and I liked what I was hearing through my Fender amp. It was very comfortable to play standing or sitting. It was 6 lbs! I didn't check the internal construction, I don't have a dental mirror, and I didn't need to pull the pickups. From what I could see with a flashlight through the F holes, everything was neat and tidy. There were no rattles. It's too bad the truss rod would not tighten, so I reluctantly returned it.
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how is it possible to be talking about 3800$ guitars with non working truss rods, bad bracing, bad bridges,,,
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This review pretty much corroborates my findings. Bright guitar, expensive, doesn't carry the tonal lineage of the 339/335/175 which by appearances and reputation you would expect. It didn't have the fatness or note bloom I've come to expect from the 339/335/175.
Again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder so if you play differently and look for something different you may love the guitar but *TO ME* it doesn't sound like a gibson...
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Thanks for the review. I played one of them in japan a few months ago and I found a lot if finishing issues.. Some quality issues too that were plain to see.
Didnt found it interesting at all for 3800 dollars.
But to be honest in some internet videos it sounded right to me.
I wouldnt buy a new gibson neither at that price.
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I paid $1525 for mine during the CME Gibson purge. That's way under what dealers were asking, hence the reason I never bought one. They still have more - it's a slow selling model. It's a niche guitar. I was looking for a Gretsch 6120, and decided to try the 275. It's about the same size, with an equivalent scale, and the MHS humbuckers. I was going for a brighter sound than my 335 in a smaller, light weight package. It delivered. Too bad about the truss rod problem, so I'm back looking for a 6120. The Japanese made Gretsch Proline is superb.
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I have just acquired my third Es:275 a 2018
Sunset Burst, it has a good neck and sounds
fine fitted with TI’s . Of course it hasn’t the
fullness of sound of a L4CES nor a TF , or
a L5Ces , one would not expect that from
a smaller bodied 2” deep guitar, I actually
exchanged my ES335 ‘63 VOS for it because
I no longer like the tone of the 335’s.Now
preferring Hollow bodied guitars only.
My first two Es275’s also had no faults
either.
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thickness can be misleading. My seventy seven albatross is way smaller and thinner than the 275 yet sounds fatter than a 275 or 335. So I wouldn't blame the brightness on the guitar thickness. The 275 is just bright. Even with a spruce top the 77 is much warmer.
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Thanks for the Review..it reinforces what I heard in Online Demos - the Guitar seemed to lack the warmth and depth of a good ES 135 or even.an ES 137.
It looks beautiful , and I like your choice in Fretwire .
I imagine if that Guitar was about 3+ inches thick - it might have much of the depth of the ES 175 ...
Surprised that Gibson came out with something so close to the 335...
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It is actually based on the body form of the 15" L5 Custom Signature and L5 Lee Ritenour Signature. It came about at the request of the Japanese Gibson importers. Originally Posted by Robertkoa
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Love my 1950 ES-125 and 2003 ES-333. They are great examples of flawless guitars that sound and feel just right. But man, buying guitars already is a lottery and if you can't even trust a guitar of a renown brand that costs a lot of money to be good.....
The rise of the tongue, bad fretwork and gaps between the braces and the top is probably exemplary and (hopefully) not the case with every 275, but I can't help mentioning that my $250 Ibanez AF55 had perfect fretwork, no tongue-rise, a good working truss rod and perfectly fitting braces right out of the box.... Mind you, not $2,500, but $250.
And even if only exemplary, that guitar of TS should not have been allowed to pass quality control. Even if you paid under 2k, that's still a lot of money for a Monday-morning guitar......
Inside of a $250 Ibanez:
To TS: I am glad you managed to correct/overcome the flaws and you can enjoy it. I wish you many years of good music in good health on it!
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Hi SF Originally Posted by silverfoxx
Congrats on your new 275 - I hope you are enjoying it and playing in good health!
I have been there myself, wanting to like semis but coming back to hollow bodies
Was hoping I could trouble you (again) for your expert opinion on the 275. How does the 2018 model compare to the 2016 models you had previously? Is it considerably better?
Apologies all if I have hijacked the thread inappropriately
all best
david
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I noticed this thread came back from the dead recently. Well lately I've been stringing this 275 up with .011 through .050 nickel roundwound strings (with a wound 3rd) and I find it still sounds good - through a Blackface Fender Pro Reverb. Now that Pro Reverb makes anything sound good but the lighter strings work better than I remembered - maybe the guitar is finally getting played in and it responds to a lighter touch.
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I’ve been thinking about maybe buying an Es-275 in full black finish, if i can find one for a reasobable price that is.
That said.
Excuse my ignorance but what is “tubeless Historic truss rod”?? Is it the same system as what i have in my Gibson SG?
How did you adjust the neck. (If needed).
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I recently was in a shop that had several brand new 275's on display. The first one had a badly warped/twisted neck, fretted out in multiple spots on different strings, and was completely unplayable (and probably unfixable without a new neck). The second one wasn't as bad, but it had multiple minor issues -- the binding was beveled asymmetrically, in a way that took away a lot of fretboard real estate; the string spacing was narrow and skewed to one side to compensate; there were multiple cracks/gaps in the finish in near the binding; there were rough burrs and discolored blotches in the binding in a couple of spots. I gave up after two and didn't try any more. I'm pretty shocked that guitars that were this messed up (and this expensive) were hanging on the wall at reputable shop. Buying one of these without trying it first strikes me as a high-risk proposition.
John
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Why don't these Gibson Dealers with problematic guitars ever return them to Gibson? I don't think they even play them, unfortunately!
And if big box stores, or larger inventory online dealers sell these dogs at a heavy discount, that should be disclosed upfront. If not stay away from these dealers.
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I just purchased a 2019 ES-275, really like the weight, balance and neck on this guitar.
Looking for recommendations for strings, I want the charlie christian swing era sound.
I've put some flatwounds from gibson on it short term, the bottom end is very powerful and the top feels a bit light. Would appreciate some recommendations, i've seen the Tomastik range and not sure what to go for there, they have a jass swing range but several choices to go for. I have an ESA355 with d'addario half wounds which sound superb on that but i'm really not sure what to go for on this ES225.
I really want this to be a jazz box. Recommmendations how to set the tone / volume/ amp for that sound would also be well received.
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Originally Posted by swing73
For a Charlie Christian swing era (late 1930s/early 1940s) tone, you definitely want roundwounds, not flatwounds.
Flatwounds are typically for 1950/60s jazz tones, before that it was all roundwounds - most likely strings wound with monel.
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