The Jazz Guitar Chord Dictionary
Reply to Thread Bookmark Thread
Posts 1 to 24 of 24
  1. #1

    User Info Menu

    I can get one of those and both are at the same price. Opinions ? Another recomendation for a similar price?



    Thanks !!!
    Last edited by gabr1el; 01-03-2017 at 07:11 AM. Reason: Change of topic

  2.  

    The Jazz Guitar Chord Dictionary
     
  3. #2

    User Info Menu

    The Aria he is a nice guitar
    Good neck , smooth , good plugged in sounds
    Built heavy , not a lot of acoustic volume
    It has a block under the bridge I believe

    Sorry don't know the Washburn , but they too
    Are well thought of ....

    Sorry either would be good !

  4. #3

    User Info Menu

    If they are in comparable condition, the Herb Ellis should be more valuable. I've had a few of the Herb's pass through my hands. They've all been great guitars, great playing and great sounding. They aren't quite what I like, but pretty hard to beat value wise. I don't have any experience with the J5.

  5. #4

    User Info Menu

    That's a trick question right?

    Sure, you already know the HE is the one.

  6. #5

    User Info Menu

    The Aria is going to likely hold value more than the Washburn. If they are both in comparably good condition, then it's a no brainer.

    The PE-175 Herb Ellis Aria Pro II guitars I have played are quite good. They were good enough for Mr. Ellis for years.

  7. #6

    User Info Menu

    forget value. The tone is 10x better on the aria. The only issue is that IMO, 75% of the '80s aria guitars need serious neck rehab'ing in the form of fret level at minimum or more likely fingerboard planing and refret. I've owned 6 of them. 2 out of the 6 played great and the other 4 needed a planing/refret.

    Still, if you can get one for under $800 it's worth putting the money into. The electric tone on them rivals a good 175.

  8. #7

    User Info Menu

    Agent, +1 on forgetting the value.

    But... potential buyer should bear in mind resale and desirability which the HE has both in its favor should they not bond with it.

  9. #8

    User Info Menu

    Im going for the herb then. Anyway the neck issues scare me a bit. What should I pay more atention to ? I live in europe and its 400e anyway.

  10. #9

    User Info Menu

    I've never had neck issues with the Arias the HE is very good guitar but the J5s are pretty good as well-

  11. #10

    User Info Menu

    I've tried precious few HE and mine has a pristine neck. This is the first I've heard of neck issues, but that's the GR8 thing about this forum... a heads up may save a LOT of grief.

  12. #11

    User Info Menu

    False alarm, I contacted the guy and he mistake a fA70 for the HE. The fa70 is 400, the j5 too. Wich one is better now ? There's another better option for that price ?

  13. #12

    User Info Menu

    Also, im a rock guitarrist who started reading this forum like yesterday. Im looking for a "jazz" guitar to start so I dont have strong references. What it matters more for me is a guitar well made with tuning stability and the best construction I could get for the money, so If, for example you told me that a sheraton is better made than an ibanez xxx I wouldnt mind if is hollow, semi hollow, floating pickup, or wich type of sounds I can get. Also I have other guitars so this one will be merely for jazz.

  14. #13

    User Info Menu

    How many have you owned? I've owned 6.

    Quote Originally Posted by Para
    I've never had neck issues with the Arias the HE is very good guitar but the J5s are pretty good as well-

  15. #14

    User Info Menu

    fa70 is not a good axe. I'd get neither of them and look for a used HE which you can find for $800-$1000 if you shop around.

    Quote Originally Posted by gabr1el
    False alarm, I contacted the guy and he mistake a fA70 for the HE. The fa70 is 400, the j5 too. Wich one is better now ? There's another better option for that price ?

  16. #15

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by agentsmith
    fa70 is not a good axe. I'd get neither of them and look for a used HE which you can find for $800-$1000 if you shop around.
    Far above my budget, 500 tops I would like to pay even less.

  17. #16

    User Info Menu

    OK, changing to the fa70 the comparison to near apples to apples makes a bit difference.

    But... I would still take the Aria over a Washburn.

  18. #17
    joaopaz Guest
    I have a 1989 Washburn J6. Discontinued long ago but I think is the basic same model of the J5, so I can only speak for this one.
    It's a wonderful guitar, and endured quite a bit over the years. The neck is straight as in day one - currently stringed with TI GB's .014s.
    The acoustic sound got really round over the years and it resonates quite nicely, you feel it in your body.
    The sound is its sound, of course, like on any guitar ... but I find it really nice and does not loose in any comparison to most of my guitars.
    The guitar feels right.

    Only things I should mention, it's huge and it's *heavy*!
    Last edited by joaopaz; 01-03-2017 at 09:58 AM.

  19. #18

    User Info Menu

    I currently have the 4th HE that's passed through my hands. All have had perfectly straight necks.

  20. #19

    User Info Menu

    The neck issues, if you have them, will be that things will be fine from the first to the 12th frets. When you get to the tongue over the body part of the fretboard, however, you may experience a rise that causes a buzz from about the 14th fret to the 20th fret. Minimally, this will necessitate some fret attention. (Else, you could just play with a higher than normal action.) Otherwise, it could involve planing the fretboard in the affected area--i.e., the tongue that floats over the body, with a re-fret in that region.

    It's not super-expensive, and more than a few guitars eventually need attention in this area. It's not as cheap as dressing the frets, either.

  21. #20

    User Info Menu

    Someone also offered me an ibanez afj95 for 300e what do you think about?

  22. #21
    joaopaz Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by gabr1el
    Someone also offered me an ibanez afj95 for 300e what do you think about?
    I have it.
    Craftsmanship is impecable. Super easy to play, very comfortable guitar.
    Acoustically it has a somewhat dull sound.
    The pickups sound great (I believe they're not *the* Super 58 but a variant of those) - but along the way I may consider putting in something with a little more "personality".


    This is basically the same guitar.. the AFJ95 has 2 pickups and a different tailpiece.

  23. #22

    User Info Menu

    And do you think 300e its a good price ?

  24. #23
    joaopaz Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by gabr1el
    And do you think 300e its a good price ?
    They're selling new close to 600 Eur so if it's in mint condition I'd say is a good price, yes.
    Not at "steal" but a good price nevertheless.
    This is not an entry level guitar so 300 Eur seems correct.

  25. #24

    User Info Menu

    Quote Originally Posted by agentsmith
    How many have you owned? I've owned 6.
    Over more years than I care to remember, I started playing late 50s, I've had 3 HEs which were excellent but in moments of madness I let go and several Washburns 2 J5s a J6 and a J10 which I really wish I'd kept