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I was looking inside my guitar as I put it away and I saw that the sticker read "Es-175" as opposed to D as it should. So, I looked at 175D models from the same period and sure enough, they're basically the same guitar sans pickup and finish. Same tuners, woods, volume with three piece neck, etc.
They put the stickers on well before they've glued everything together, right? My guess is that they either used a body originally destined to become a 175D or somebody huffed a little too much glue when applying the stickers.Last edited by Dioxic; 12-17-2019 at 10:38 PM.
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10-17-2016 05:17 PM
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Can you post a pic? Most of those 175CCs have a nicer color than the 175s. Would love to see it.
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When I'm home this evening, sure. My finish is the same sort of tobacco burst you'd expect of other Es-175CCs, though.
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Can you post a pic? Most of those 175CCs have a nicer color than the 175s. Would love to see it.
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Two of my friends friends owned Gibson dealerships back when the 175/CC was being sold. I used to love to go and play them. They weren't plentiful, but most of the examples I saw back then had the "antique sunburst" finish. It was Norlin's attempt to reproduce the finish found on the thirties Gibsons--i.e., small sunburst in the center of the top.
I liked this finish. I don't recall seeing this finish on the 175D guitars of the same period, but I could be recalling things incorrectly.
For sure, though, my favorite 175 of the '79-'80 period was the 175/CC. It did _not_ sound like a 30s ES-150. However, it DID sound like the smoothest ES-175 ever produced. I deeply regret never buying one. They play great and they sound superb.
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Dioxic, that is a peach! Hubba! Hubba!
Norlin Gibson didn't make a special label for it. The truss rod cover says ES175/CC. That is it.
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Thank you! I love it to death.
Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
I didn't save it, but I saw one for sale on eBay with the sticker that specifically said Es-175CC
Edit: Here's an example
Taken from: https://reverb.com/item/2787128-gibs...FVKDfgodl1MO9ALast edited by Dioxic; 10-19-2016 at 01:08 AM.
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Hi there,
Same sticker for my 175CC from 1980. The label says "ES-175CC".
Great instrument.
Cheers.
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Well, it's obviously a CC and not a D as there are no holes for the HB PUs. Sometimes things went a bit fast for Gibson back then. Don't worry, be happy. Just play it.
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Beautiful sunburst shade!
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Interesting.
I have a CC-(I double checked the label)
Wondering if anyone has one stamped second on the headstock or elsewhere?
Mine is not, but I've seen many CCs stamped-
here's mine, with Doug's Plugs installed-
Love this guitar so much-haven't bonded so quickly with one ever-it just has that thing
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Dioxic,
You clearly have an ES-175/CC in the antique sunburst finish. It's a beauty, and I'd predict that it plays wonderfully and sounds spectacular. I have never played a CC--and I had one on loan for about six months (not in the antique sunburst, here it is)--that wasn't a killer:
My guess is that the guitar is simply mis-labelled. I wouldn't sweat it for a minute. The guitar clearly IS a CC. Enjoy.
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disagree Greentone, Originally Posted by Greentone
Dioxic,
You clearly have an ES-175/CC in the antique sunburst finish. It's a beauty, and I'd predict that it plays wonderfully and sounds spectacular. I have never played a CC--and I had one on loan for about six months (not in the antique sunburst, here it is)--that wasn't a killer:
My guess is that the guitar is simply mis-labelled. I wouldn't sweat it for a minute. The guitar clearly IS a CC. Enjoy.
can't you see the spliced in plywood rectangles where the humbuckers were and the plugs for the 2 extra control knobs and selector switch? every one I've seen marked 175D had this.
man, you guys must be blind...
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Looks beauriful! Definitely my favorite guitar ever. Originally Posted by Greentone
Dioxic,
You clearly have an ES-175/CC in the antique sunburst finish. It's a beauty, and I'd predict that it plays wonderfully and sounds spectacular. I have never played a CC--and I had one on loan for about six months (not in the antique sunburst, here it is)--that wasn't a killer:
My guess is that the guitar is simply mis-labelled. I wouldn't sweat it for a minute. The guitar clearly IS a CC. Enjoy.
I guess i didnt go a good job explaining myself. I know my guitar is a CC, but when you compare it to 175Ds from the same year I realized that except for the finish and pickup / control routing they're the same guitar. Exact same wood usage, three piece neck, same tuners, etc.
so I was wondering at what point in the process is the sticker applied? I was wondering if it's possible that they intended to route this for a 175D and then it got lumped in with the other CCs
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Many explanations are possible - also this one. Say, if they got some extra orders for the CC, it would be easy just to grab a few half finsihed guitars off the 175D line and make them into a CC. In that case, the label will likely have been glued to the buttom before the top was mounted. I se no reason why the build should be any different from the stock 175. From a production point of view, it's rational to use exactly the same basic guitar and just apply different cutouts in the top for the PU and harness - and maybe also a different laquer spraying. If I was in charge of production, I'd do it that way. Originally Posted by Dioxic
Last edited by oldane; 10-19-2016 at 11:33 AM.
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Interesting, I've not "scrutinized" the label inside of my 1979 CC and I've had it for 36 years LOL, I'll check it out tonight. I've kept it stock with the exception of replacing the black witches hat knobs with gold knobs.
I also own a 1968 Les Paul Standard, that was the first year they began producing the traditional single cut-away Les Pauls in the aftermath of the double cut-away SG style models. In the 68 guitars you will see a mix of parts and labels, some of which were leftover from the 50s.
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No, I don't see the rectangular plugs. Maybe my resolution is inadequate on the big Dell monitor I am using. Are you describing dioxic's guitar?
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I'm looking through a microscope. Originally Posted by Greentone
in my experience, all the 175D marked ES-175CC's have the, er, um, plugs....
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That might suggest that Gibson experienced more demand for the CC than they made bodies for. They weren't making single-pu bodies any longer (stopped in '71) and must've under-anticipated the demand for the CC. No problem...just plug up some 175D bodies.
I knew a couple of guys who grew up on the furniture lines in North Carolina. They could do things with lacquer burn in sticks that would make your head spin. They could repair breaks in furniture/instruments and blend in the finish with burn in sticks. You'd never notice...unless you expressly knew that the repair job was there. These guys were flippin' wizards. Oh, and could they spray nitro finishes!
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FWIW, I'd find either a 175/CC or 175D marked "CC" guitar desirable. I've probably played both without realizing it.
I will start paying more attention now. They all are the coolest of 175 guitars, to me...except for some of the 50s/early-60s ones.
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just kidding GT!!!!!!!!
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Oh! So, I probably don't own the Brooklyn Bridge, either? I thought an even swap for one Les Paul and a P-bass seemed kind of cheap.
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"So, I probably don't own the Brooklyn Bridge, either?'
no, but if you want to buy some prime Florida swampland.......
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P u n k e d!
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My first 175 was a CC. A unique guitar with a great sound, but just one sound. Not very versatile, heavy, and fed back easily.
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