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  1. #26

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    I'll have to try the pick thing .....

    I suspect that I may have some rattling pots ....

    My single pickup L5WES doesn't have the rattle issues that my two pickup archtops have .....


    I picked up a Collings City Limits Deluxe a few years ago in my earlier days of searching for the ultimate LP type guitar ... one of the things that attracted me to this guitar was it's archtop flavored sound on the neck pickup ... it still has the solid body snap and sustain that could give it away on a recording, but it can deliver 95% or more when it comes to archtop flavors

    I tried another City Limits at the same time .. and it did not have the mellow bottom end that mine does

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  3. #27

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    Like vocalists, each guitar has a unique voice. The strong inhale, the lipsmack, a slight sibalance, a sudden smile changing the timbre... This is why it's not Auto-tune. This is why it compels the spirit to listen.

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    DanielleOM,
    Have you ever noticed how you can love someone (or something) in spite of, or even, god help you, because of the little flaws that make them special to you? Strange isn't it, we get used to those little flaws, and look for them when they go missing.
    The good news is that there is today a glut of really well made solid body guitars. If you're not concerned with the name on the headstock you can find a great guitar, new or used for less than $600. Michael Kelly, Dean, Schecter, Ibanez, Squire tele's, partscasters of all sorts and on and on. I would try to buy used as you'll spend less and if you don't like it, you can sell it for around what you paid for it.
    Last edited by whiskey02; 09-16-2016 at 03:12 PM. Reason: typo

  5. #29

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    My solidbody is a Strat. It does not rattle. Not a bit. Absolutely no rattling whatsoever. Okay, so it goes "boing" a lot. Sue me.

    John

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    IME the pickup springs are the most common rattlers, even if they seem to be tight. I tend to replace them with some thin plastic aquarium tubing. That doesn't rattle. The pickup wires can cause issues, as can almost any hardware on the guitar. It's amazing how loud a tiny loose washer can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cushman
    You may save yourself some headaches with a solid body and cause yourself a backache in the trade. I have often reached for a nice solid body off the rack in a store and discovered how very heavy some of these little solid body guitars can be.
    Two letters: S-G


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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskey02
    DanielleOM,
    Have you ever noticed how you can love someone (or something) in spite of, or even, god help you, because of the little flaws that make them special to you? Strange isn't it, we get used to those little flaws, and look for them when they go missing.
    The good news is that there is today a glut of really well made solid body guitars. If you're not concerned with the name on the headstock you can find a great guitar, new or used for less than $600. Michael Kelly, Dean, Schecter, Ibanez, Squire tele's, partscasters of all sorts and on and on. I would try to buy used as you'll spend less and if you don't like it, you can sell it for around what you paid for it.
    There's a lot to like about this post -- a lot. Wish I could give it more than one.

    We live in the golden age of guitar-building, in terms of playability and tone against dollars spent. Quality has moved down-market and we guitarists benefit.

    And yes, it's the idiosyncrasies that often bind us to a person, instrument, or place. Beautiful point there.

  9. #33

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    Hi,

    Thanks for all the comments on this thread.

    The Eastman AR503CE had started to give me more trouble after changing the pickup and putting in a new wire harness. Jamming some card stock between the pickup ring and pickup seem to take care of most of the problems. I believe the other noises were there before we replaced the pickup, pots, harness, and jack.

    Although I do not have a traditional solid body guitar, I do have the MK Rick Turner N6 guitar, that I can turn to when I want a break from arch top guitars. I have been trying to spend a little time with that guitar and bossa nova style tunes each evening.

    Danielle

  10. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Cushman
    You may save yourself some headaches with a solid body and cause yourself a backache in the trade. I have often reached for a nice solid body off the rack in a store and discovered how very heavy some of these little solid body guitars can be.
    You do make a good point. My non- archtop guitars are 000/OM size flat tops. I am not used to a lot of weight.

  11. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluedawg
    I'll have to try the pick thing .....


    My single pickup L5WES doesn't have the rattle issues that my two pickup archtops have .....
    Mine sure does.....

    ......if am I understanding this pick placement - - do you snug it between the p/u and the plastic ring ? .....you could use anything that'd act as a shim, right ?...matchstick, etc ?

    I'd do the ' take it to the luthier ', but I'm homebound for a while....

    ....if anyone has a photo, I'd appreciate it...


    Thx

  12. #36

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    I think almost anything that will stop the pickup from moving around with in the ring will work. If it's rattling, then there's probably room to put something between the pickup and the ring. Business card weight card stock usually works for me. It's easy to cut to shape and you can layer if necessary. On one guitar I am using a black vinyl type material that came from a small notebook cover.

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    Whatever fits would work. I like the reed idea. Or you can buy wooden shims at a hardware store. I think somewhat softer materials might work a little better than harder, but every case is different, and each person probably has different materials at hand. Necessity is the mother of invention, and sometimes we just have to run to Mama.

  14. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe DeNisco
    As much as I love it, my Tal is a rattellac. And it comes and goes so it's hard isolate the rattles. The latest is the guitar sounds like it has a built in distortion pedal somewhere. The sound is amplified through the amp.
    So Danielle, I feel your pain. Guitars with floating pickups seem less prone to rattle.
    JD
    Hi,
    I have a new Tal with PUP rattle. I believe it to be the springs, but it does indeed sound like a distortion pedal is connected, particularly when chorded above the 7th fret.

  15. #39

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    Even my trusty Ibanez GB200 needs a little help.
    Without this pick jammed in the pup ring.....just exactly so......it's a distorto fest!
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    A better fix is to replace the springs with stronger ones, or to use tubing instead, but that works in a pinch. StewMac's pickups come with springs that don't rattle or buzz. They're so strong that it's almost impossible to connect the pickup and the ring without a jig. It takes a very strong spring to prevent noise, and on my Eastman I gave up and used tubing. It needs to be cut to the proper length, and that can take a mulligan or two to get it right, but it works well IME.

  17. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by plectrum99x
    Hi,
    I have a new Tal with PUP rattle. I believe it to be the springs, but it does indeed sound like a distortion pedal is connected, particularly when chorded above the 7th fret.
    ........yup - -sounds familiar.......

  18. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philco
    Even my trusty Ibanez GB200 needs a little help.
    Without this pick jammed in the pup ring.....just exactly so......it's a distorto fest!

    ..thanks for the photo.....

  19. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    A better fix is to replace the springs with stronger ones, or to use tubing instead, but that works in a pinch. StewMac's pickups come with springs that don't rattle or buzz. They're so strong that it's almost impossible to connect the pickup and the ring without a jig. It takes a very strong spring to prevent noise, and on my Eastman I gave up and used tubing. It needs to be cut to the proper length, and that can take a mulligan or two to get it right, but it works well IME.
    Interesting .....

    I found this humbucker helper pickup rig on the Stew Mac website ...

    Humbucker Helpers | stewmac.com

    At $9 for a pair it's at least cheap ... and a pack of 8 springs is less than $4.

    The next trick is to mark the bridge location for a quick restring and minimal intonation hassle ... what can I use to avoid messing up the finish ... masking tape?

    Then a knob puller in case I need to tighten up things on the volume/tone pots

  20. #44

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    Blue painter's tape is better than plain masking tape, which can leave sticky residue. Put in on your jeans leg or a cloth or something to reduce the tack before applying it if you're worried. StewMac also has spanner/knob pullers for sale. Not cheap, but probably worth it. They work for tightening all sizes of nuts, so you don't need several wrenches to keep them all tight, and also work for adjusting bridge wheels.

    ESP Multi Spanner | stewmac.com

  21. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgosnell
    Blue painter's tape is better than plain masking tape, which can leave sticky residue. Put in on your jeans leg or a cloth or something to reduce the tack before applying it if you're worried. StewMac also has spanner/knob pullers for sale. Not cheap, but probably worth it. They work for tightening all sizes of nuts, so you don't need several wrenches to keep them all tight, and also work for adjusting bridge wheels.

    ESP Multi Spanner | stewmac.com

    That's nice ... also thin ... I worry that my big wrenches are at risk of banging against the guitar

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    I always like tools that can do multiple jobs. This one does several, depending on how many sizes of nuts you have. Wrenches are dangerous. If I use something other than this on a guitar, it's a deepwell socket of the appropriate size. I have a set in an Altoids tin, just in case. The deepwell gives enough purchase to allow using them without anything else, so the risk of overtightening is minimal. As does the spanner. Crank too hard and it's apt to slip. And no nuts on a guitar need to be super tight.