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Thinking about trying The TI bebops 13s on my 2015 Eastman 403 it has Nanowebs 12s now.How might it change the the tone, play,ability of it.Finger style( joe passish) no nails.I am starting feel fatigue after 30- 40 minutes of chord grips.The guitar plays great is set up nice i am just thinking of future.Also will i need to adjust the pu.Its got the stock pu with screws for each string.Thanks in advance for any insight.
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09-14-2016 04:04 PM
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When you say nanowebs, are you talking nickel or bronze?
I know the TI's are lower tension strings, but I'm not sure by how much....somebody here will have a #, but I'd be surprised if a set of TI .013's has lower tension than another brand's .012's...but I've been wrong before
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With bebop 14's I observe greater acoustic volume, and more vibrancy from the guitar. I used to string all of my acoustic archtops with bebop 14's. You'll observe some string squeak, which some can't stand, and I can't identify with...perhaps because I play for myself. But the trade off between bebop's and flat wounds, for acoustic playing, is well worth the transition if you can handle the string noise. Bebop 14's have about the same string tension as a set of D'Addario 12's. 13's should be an easy transition.
edit - Amazon's $17 a set for TI BB113's is a decent price
https://www.amazon.com/Thomastik-Inf...JBV4XWF0KVED5VLast edited by 2bornot2bop; 09-14-2016 at 04:35 PM.
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I've had TI Swing 13s on an Eastman 910 and Gibson ES175CC, I like them very much. The guage/tension on the E, A, D strings are closer to other manufacturer's 12 sets.
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TI 13s are 26| 25.2| 26.7| 26| 24.7 | 25,4 Elixers 12s are 23| 23| 28| 28| 26 |22 this is hi e to low e if read the chart right.
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Matz:The Elixirs are plain steels.Thanks!!
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thom bops are pure nickel so will give you a softer feel and a bit warmer tone...you might benefit from ever so slightly raising the pickup height, as pure nickel is less magnetic
you might want to make a straight change from 12 to 12's if your hands are bothering you..better to be able to play comfortably, than a little bit of increased tone
cheers
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Another reason for the 13s is all the discussion about the wound /unwound g.I suppose i could buy an extra g but the hand situation i hope is because i took on a 2 week side job back in construction and hit hard like i was 50 again.I say fifty because every body thinks im a freak of nature because of the shape im in and never was a health nut.Pushin 66 i go to gatherings and im running the fields with the kids its embarrasing.(for them)I am extremely thankful.My wife doesnt know what to make of me.She is sure i die of some freak stupid reason.It will probably happen after i send this lol.any way as things develope i will know the direction to go in order to keep playin.You guys have a place im my heart!!!Thanks for every thing.Ill check in later for more info thanks again.
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Careful with the notion that TIs have less tension than other strings. It depends compared to what. For instance a set of bebop 12s has more, quite a bit more tension than the equivalent set of D'Addario NYXLs.
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I was referencing the commonly used D'Addario Chromes. Some 3-4 years ago a member took the trouble to list the string tensions of several commonly used strings compared to string tensions of larger TI strings. And the larger TI's were less than a pair of 12 Chromes. Surprised me too. It's in the archives if you want to search for it.
Originally Posted by m_d
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Originally Posted by 2bornot2bop
Just Strings has tensions listed for quite a few of their string sets, under the description tab: Flatwound Guitar Strings, Flatwound Strings, Best Flatwound Guitar Strings | JustStrings.com
Here is what I see:
D'A Chrome:
12 23.3
16 23.3
24 30
32 27.9
42 28
52 22.7
TI Swing 12:
12 22.8
16 22.8
20 24.6
27 24.1
37 22.8
50 23.3
TI Swing 13:
13 26.0
17 25.1
21 27.3
28 27.3
39 24.8
53 26.0
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Ddarrios 12-52 NYXL are starting with hi e 23.310- 23.310- 27.500- 25.480 -21.030 are these relatively new?All reviews i see stress you can play them really hard. they get in tune and stay there fast.Bright. But im not not sure about jazz use i mean maybe a progressive modern which is cool to.I heard a guy on a solid body and interesting effects do a Joe Pass arrangement it was enjoyable.stirred my creative juices a bit.Dont know what strings he used.
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Got to be careful with the TI Bebops. If you from 13s to 12s you get a plain 3rd string. Originally Posted by neatomic
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Oh i was going for the 13s cause they had a wound g.So its not untill you get to 14s that thats the case thanks might go with the 12s and buy a single g wound if needed.sorry miss understood the 13s has not the plain.
Last edited by EarlBrother; 09-16-2016 at 09:57 AM.
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Ok i know i need to just shut up and try till i find what need but at the insight of many councellors let a matter be established oh maybe it has.Anyway with that in mind i will not expect a response but if it happens great.So i just spent some time chatting with some one who has been in the jazz gear business a long time respected and trusted by me.But he recommended more tension was easier to grip than low tesion after i told him my situation as result he recommended Newtone Archtops I forgot to ask what gauge but im thinking he was leaning toward 11 or 12s.Money wise I might try those to begin my journey any insight on those?
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13 Bebops have a wound G Originally Posted by EarlBrother
12 Bebops have a plain G
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These tensions have to have a scale length reference !
Prob 24.75" but who knows ? ?
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D'Addario gives their tensions for 25.5" scale. But the site has a tension calculator, where you can give whatever scale length you like, as well as use standard sets or specify any individual strings. I wish other manufacturers did that. The string package also gives the tension of each string, and specifies that it's for 25.5" scale. For shorter scale lengths it's lower, and you can use the tension calculator for the exact tensions.
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