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I'm interested in a new guitar with P90 pickup; I like laminated and 17" full body, not thinline;
I tried an old gibson 175 with p90 and it was great and I watched some old es350 YouTube that I liked very mych; I'm wondering if the new productions could go near them in tone and playability: I mean the new Guild X175 or the D'Angelico EX39. no good video about them though...
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06-22-2016 10:07 AM
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I'm at this moment taking an old Sebring full-depth 17" jazz box, taking out the stock humbuckers, and installing P90s. I'm starting with dirt-cheap GFS p90's, but if I like it, I may up the neck pickup to a better model.
I'd thought about installing a Charlie Christian, but then I'd have to deal with the bridge pickup hole...
Last edited by lawson-stone; 06-22-2016 at 05:44 PM.
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Loar Guitars?
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Different model, but I love the neck, frets & response of my modern Guild Savoy A150 that
I urge you to try a Guild before you buy. Really satisfying, for me at least.
lawson-stone,
We're gonna want to hear dat thing.
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The new X-175 would get you pretty close... I think the Franz style pickups Guild use are a little different to P-90s, they're lower output, but I would think the swap to a regular P90 would be fairly easy. Those new Guilds look really nice, there's a couple in my local music store, they're tempting.
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I like the P90's sound too, but recently acquired a pair of Biltoft CC's, one a drop in humbucker style, and the other a suspended CC floater for an acoustic archtop. I'm assuming you're changing the pots too? From 500k currently in the guitar to 250k?
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I know that you (the OP) wrote a "new" guitar. But if second hand is OK, a post WWII Gibson ES150 would fit the requirements. Laminated, 17", P90, 25,5" scale. They can be found for reasonable prices. Being utility instrumens and by now quite old, more often than not they show wear, but they were well made and if still structurally healthy, they sound and play great. If a 24,75" scale is wanted, the ES125 is an alternative (or a pre HB 175, of course).
Last edited by oldane; 06-23-2016 at 06:14 AM.
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Both Lollar and Pete Biltoft are making good CC's for dropping into a prexisting HB PU ring. No surgery needed, just connect the leads.
Originally Posted by lawson-stone
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you are right Oldane: new = one more guitar 😀
I appreciate your advice but old Gibs aren't available in my zone 😢...
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not a lot of choices!!! the idea of a single neck p90 archtop is OUT!!...there's some 2 & 3 pickup p90 fatbody archtop guitars...but not a great many of them either!
the guild x175 is nice..has the franz style single coil pickups..like an underwound p90...that'd probably be my pick of what's out there
but really- this is my idea of a good time!
cheers
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Neither in my zone, so we'll likely have to import one from US. That is not tempting right now, condidering the shift in EUR/US exchange rate this morning due to the Brexit. Originally Posted by gianluca
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I have a D'Angelico EX-59 which has 2 P-90 pickups. It's in the natural maple finish, not the halloween sunburst. I like the tone of the pickup and use the guitar when I want a fatter single note sound and tone in general than their floating pickup models which I also have. The neck is comfortable like their other models and the workmanship and attention to detail are high quality. I can't say how they compare with other P-90 pickups. I like the sound of the neck pickup and never use the bridge pickup, like many Gibson 175 players.
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cool zr..i like the d'a ex-59 but not the "halloween sunburst"! ...in natural, it'd be a winner...hadn't seen before
there's also a transparent ebony version
cheers
ps- i'd bet they are kent armstrong branded pups..but generic asian made...would prob benefit from upgrade..ie. kent armstrong handmades!Last edited by neatomic; 06-24-2016 at 04:05 PM.
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Neatonic, Yes, the Halloween sunburst was too much. The EX-59 is based on one of the D'Angelico guitars made with a Code/United body that was highly flamed. The EX-59 in natural maple is also highly flamed. For some reason, that picture doesn't show the flame. Here are a couple photos that show it. It's a lighter color, though, more like in your photo. I do plan to eventually replace the Korean Kent Armstrong P-90's but for now it gives me the idea of what the qualities of a P-90 are as I hadn't played a guitar with them before.
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I have the same Sebring guitar with P-90's. Together it gives a great sound, but I find a bit of unwanted noise from them, even with my Quilter Micropro amp. Let me know if that happens to you. And please post a video. Originally Posted by lawson-stone
I'm at this moment taking an old Sebring full-depth 17" jazz box, taking out the stock humbuckers, and installing P90s. I'm starting with dirt-cheap GFS p90's, but if I like it, I may up the neck pickup to a better model.
I'd thought about installing a Charlie Christian, but then I'd have to deal with the bridge pickup hole...
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how much did you have to widen the openings for the pickup? I'm also finding that there isn't much room between the top of the guitar and the strings, and just mounting the pickup in the normal way will set it up too high. I'm thinking of the idea of trying to bring the pickup from underneath, but I don't know if the braces are far enough apart to let me do that. Originally Posted by Larry Feldman
How did you do it?
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I can get you a new Seventy Seven Hawk with a P90 or two new, just let me know.Same size as an ES 175 . Pm me if youre interested. Thanks. Bob
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ls- fitting a neck p-90 dogear pickup into archtop can be tough..due to the neck angle used...particulalrly on asian made guitars...epiphone actually has its own sized p90..which is shorter than a standard neck p-90..unfortunately they also wind it differently to make up for the difference
could be the neck angle on sebring is just too shallow..it's a known issue
here's pickup guru jason lollar info on it
Important Notes on Dog Ear Sizing and Casino/Wildcat Model
luck
cheers
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I had someone do it for me. I'm so bad at guitar maintenance that I can barely change my own strings.
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hat's my D'Angelico, although I have it listed for sale I really think I should keep it as it sounds glorious....
https://reverb.com/item/1496443-d-an...-tone-sunburst
I copied some DA that had custom ordered Franz pickups. Similar to a P90 in sound, maybe a little more articulate. He also used these on the United body models. I like the way the sunburst came out...
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