Anyone playing live digital?

**mertas** · 10-09-2015, 02:02 AM

trying to figure out, if Scuffhams Sgear plugin in MainStage on MacBook+audion interface, playing into PA could bring nice jazzy tone.
Anyone experimented allready?
useful live or not sense to spend time with this issue?

**henryrobinett** · 10-09-2015, 02:53 AM

OK. You need to stop this right now. This needs to stop. Put the usb cable down. Leave the scuffhams sgear alone. Seriously. Take a nap. It's not worth it. Mom. Mom!!

**JensL** · 10-09-2015, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by mertas

trying to figure out, if Scuffhams Sgear plugin in MainStage on MacBook+audion interface, playing into PA could bring nice jazzy tone.
Anyone experimented allready?
useful live or not sense to spend time with this issue?

I can't give you any useful info, but I am curious how it works out! Please let us know

Jens

**mertas** · 10-09-2015, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by JensL

I can't give you any useful info, but I am curious how it works out! Please let us know

Jens

Jens you have live experience with Axe FX, don't you?
share please your comments, what works and what not...

**mertas** · 10-09-2015, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by xuoham

For anything besides simple gig with no looper, no freeze, no bells and whistles, i rely completely on Ableton Live, Plogue Bidule, a Focusrite Scarlett and two Line 6 FBV Express.

do you have direct comparison to good tube amp?
please comment

**JensL** · 10-09-2015, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by mertas

Jens you have live experience with Axe FX, don't you?
share please your comments, what works and what not...

Indeed! I have been using AxeFX for most of my live gigs, studio, teaching and everything else for the last 5 years.

For me it is the best possible solution: Great sound, very consistent, flexible, light weight and so on... Probably one of the best investments I've ever made gear wise.

I can't tell you if it works for you, with all gear it is for the biggest part subjective what is good and bad (if it isn't falling apart)

Jens

**mertas** · 10-09-2015, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by JensL

Indeed! I have been using AxeFX for most of my live gigs, studio, teaching and everything else for the last 5 years.

For me it is the best possible solution: Great sound, very consistent, flexible, light weight and so on... Probably one of the best investments I've ever made gear wise.

Jens

you play straight to PA on gigs?

**JensL** · 10-09-2015, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by mertas

you play straight to PA on gigs?

Depends on the size of the venue. I always bring 1 or 2 QSC K10's that I use for monitoring for me and the band or as backline if it's a club.

Since using technology like this is completely dependent on the quality of the PA it goes through you will get much better results by have you own (high quality) PA. Much cheaper than the K10's will not cut it IMO.

Jens

**mertas** · 10-09-2015, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by JensL

Since using technology like this is completely dependent on the quality of the PA it goes through you will get much better results by have you own (high quality) PA. Much cheaper than the K10's will not cut it IMO.

Jens

Have you proved also proved K8 or K12? is it about power in W or size of speaker used inside?
what sound range have you proved , just jazzy or also overdriven, acoustic guitars?
everybody with AXE uses Atomics or Matrix speakers..

**JensL** · 10-09-2015, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by mertas

Have you proved also proved K8 or K12? is it about power in W or size of speaker used inside?
what sound range have you proved , just jazzy or also overdriven, acoustic guitars?
everybody with AXE uses Atomics or Matrix speakers..

Ok... we're completely going off topic with this, which is maybe a bit unpolite?

The K10 is a 10" speaker. I have tried K12 too which is also great, but bigger (12")

I have heard the Atomics and I would buy one if I needed to replace the K10's. I know the guy who designed it and it is the best you can get without a doubt! The guys is a genius when it comes to speaker design!

I have very little experience with the Matrix stuff, but most people like them. I've heard them drive normal guitar speakers which sound good.

I have done all types of sounds from clean to heavy metal. Never had to use an acoustic, but it can easily do it I am sure!

Jens

**jzucker** · 10-09-2015, 06:39 AM

yes, i am with kemper

**jorgemg1984** · 10-09-2015, 07:32 AM

I gig with a zoom ns100bt (tuner overdrive parametriceq delay reverb), an epsi (speaker cab) and two preamps - right now a barbeq and a shapeq, soon it will be a kingsley squire bf and a custom polytone preamp.

If I need cabs I have two Mambo PA cabs.

**henryrobinett** · 10-09-2015, 10:23 AM

I too have an Axe Fx II and I absolutely love it.

**NSJ** · 10-09-2015, 11:22 AM

Anybody use an Axe FX 2 with a Kemper? Is this possible to configure without being a rocket scientist?

I noticed that my favorite rock Band -King Crimson-uses Kempers and Axe Fx--but not seemingly together. The bass player and the second guitarist use a Kemper and Robert Fripp, the bandleader, uses an Axe Fx in his rig. In fact, his rig is probably the most sophisticated of any guitarist around. A far cry from 1973, when his rig consisted of a Les Paul, A volume pedal, wah and fuzz box.

The interesting thing is: the second guitarist plays all the early King Crimson guitar parts that Fripp can't play (because he tunes his guitar differently these days (cello tuning)) . The second guitarist uses a Kemper built in preset called, interestingly enough, "Early Fripp", to play early Fripp guitar parts.

In rehearsals, Fripp went up to him and said wow that sounds great, what are you using ? He proceeded to show him the "early Fripp" preset On the Kemper.

destinytot · 10-09-2015, 04:36 PM

I was curious to know what an Axe FX is (and what it does), so I listened to demos of the bank of sounds. It's a really impressive piece of kit, but the price puts it beyond my reach.

Are there any more affordable alternatives? (The Amplifikation Vermilion's been mentioned already.)

**TedBPhx** · 10-09-2015, 04:45 PM

Bias and Bias FX available on iPad and laptops has been compared favorably to Axe FX. Never played with an an Axe FX so don't know.

**henryrobinett** · 10-09-2015, 06:32 PM

The two top end modelers are the Axe Fx II and the Kemper. I believe the Kemper is a little cheaper but similar ballpark, still perhaps more expensive than you're wanting.

Id like to avoid the Axe Fx vs Kemper wars. Both are great. It's a little like PC vs Mac, IPhone vs Samsung, democrats vs republicans, Christian vs Muslim or Jew. Personal and pointless.

**NSJ** · 10-09-2015, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by henryrobinett

The two top end modelers are the Axe Fx II and the Kemper. I believe the Kemper is a little cheaper but similar ballpark, still perhaps more expensive than you're wanting.

Id like to avoid the Axe Fx vs Kemper wars. Both are great. It's a little like PC vs Mac, IPhone vs Samsung, democrats vs republicans, Christian vs Muslim or Jew. Personal and pointless.

No my question is not that sectarian.

Quite simply, can one just get a stereo pedal that allows a stereo amp set up in which one can use both in a stereo setting ? There is no reason to believe that if a stereo amp set up is possible, why not a situation in which both can be used. ?

That might sound pretty cool, allowing one to use superior attributes of both .
Just wondering

**henryrobinett** · 10-09-2015, 08:22 PM

Ah . . . huh? I'm not clear about what you're asking.

**jzucker** · 10-09-2015, 09:05 PM

if you're looking for a cheaper solution, the atomic amplifire is a great deal. Many folks like it as much as the kemper or better and supposedly the cleans are to die for. The guy who's profiles are my favorites has done the profiles for version 2 of the amplifire and I talked to him and he really loves the cleans on the amplifire and says they are as good as the kemper profiles he's done. It's $600 for the amplifire pedal.

**jzucker** · 10-09-2015, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by NSJ

No my question is not that sectarian.

Quite simply, can one just get a stereo pedal that allows a stereo amp set up in which one can use both in a stereo setting ? There is no reason to believe that if a stereo amp set up is possible, why not a situation in which both can be used. ?

That might sound pretty cool, allowing one to use superior attributes of both .
Just wondering

yes you can do that but most folks using both like rosenwinkel are using the kemper for the amps and the axefx II for effects.

**NSJ** · 10-09-2015, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by jzucker

yes you can do that but most folks using both like rosenwinkel are using the kemper for the amps and the axefx II for effects.

I just looked up what Kurt himself had to say about it, on his own forums

this is his answer as of 1 year ago

"Ive been going back and forth between the Axe-fx and the Kemper. they both are great and have their respective pros and cons. the effects routing and multiple signal path capabilities of the AXE-FX are a huge advantage over the Kempers linear, one path architecture. But the accessibility of the front panel controls of the Kemper and the ease of use of tweaking the amplifiers in real time and in programming and also the superior clean sounds makes the Kemper more attractive. In the end i end up preferring the Axe-fx because i can route up to three separate signal paths (guitar, hog, vox) and end up with one stereo out to the house and monitor. The axe-fx has a steep learning curve with so many parameters its easy to get lost in tweaking things you cannot even be sure you hear or feel. the Kemper is much easier to get to where you want to go. But the multitude of great effects and routing capabilities push the axe-fx into the winners box for me, at the moment. i control the units with a RJM Mastermind GT. this thing is awesome and one of my best gear purchases.

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**jzucker** · 10-09-2015, 09:48 PM

thanks for the update Navdeep.

**NSJ** · 10-10-2015, 08:42 AM

And from another post by KR on his forums, where he said he used both together --

Kemper amp is great. I like it very much! the Axe FX is also great, i use them both recently together. I prefer the amp models in the Kemper and the effects and routing in the axe-fx.
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jamacy77
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Thanks Kurt!
What type of footswitch are you using with it? I'm thinking about buying a Kemper. Also, are the delays and reverbs decent?
Thanks
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kurtisrosenwinkel
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i am using another cutting edge and revolutionary product from RJM called the Mastermin GT, a midi foot controller with silent switches and the ability to name all the buttons how you want on bright LED screens for each button, also with multiple pages possible. very easy to program and a pleasure to work with. this one unit has opened the whole world of midi control up for me.
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reverbs and delays on Kemper and indeed all the effects are great.

**Cunamara** · 10-10-2015, 02:02 PM

My "digital" rig is the Zoom MS100BT into an Alto TS110a powered speaker. Pretty much as simple as can be and highly portable. Mostly I use the Acoustic 360 bass amp model with a little bit of spring reverb and a parametric EQ patch. It sounds quite good for jazz and works well with my telecasters and my archtops. Using the PA speaker results in having better sound dispersal and reduced beaming- I cover a bit more of the room and it's easier to hear myself, as well. Having the high-frequency driver seems to give a little bit more of an open sound which I like.