Byrdland from China

[Dave70]

Found this on the web, wonder if anyone actually has it inlaid on a guitar

[vinlander]

The Gibson open book headstock belongs to the company the same way as their logo, there is a reason why people drool over it too...

[Hep To The Jive]

So are you going to play some Chazz on it?

[Jabberwocky]

How about Chomping at the Chavoy? Chella By Charlight? Slow Boat to China?

[gtrplrfla]

How about Chomping at the Chavoy? Chella By Charlight? Slow Boat to China?

Don't overlook, "Chinatown, My Chinatown", "Chopsticks" and "Chardust."

[Hep To The Jive]

Don't overlook, "Chinatown, My Chinatown", "Chopsticks" and "Chardust."

China Boy would sound great on it too! You know, in Chypsy Chazz style...

[aleksandar]

Actually, some of these guitars are really good (for the money) and I would buy one too, certainly a lot better than the cheap guitars that you would buy 10-15 years ago or more. Too bad that the customs in my country are really rigorous when it comes to importing goods with protected trademark logo on it. I read on their site that they actually received some European award for this. They would confiscate anything which is counterfeit, Chinese "iPhones", bags and dresses that some women order, sunglasses, even booklets, and they don't care if it's for personal use or not, just one item or more, so I wouldn't risk.

And I actually don't care about the logo and the serial number and Made in USA thing on the back, and I don't have a clue why would anybody want a guitar like that, I personally would be ashamed if somebody would ask me something like: "Wow, is that a Gibson? How much did you pay for it?" I just want the freaking guitar!

Although some people are shameless. Once I saw in the ads a "Gibson Les Paul" that allegedly is genuine, but it's clearly not, it is one of these, you can see by several characteristics, and most certainly by the bridge. But they put a price like 1000 Euros for a Gibson Les Paul and hope that somebody will bite for it.

[Jabberwocky]

Band of Philistines...

[grahambop]

Do Chibsons have 'chunk'?

[Archie]

Chevy Chase Chuckled Chunking on a Chipbson.

Theres a little tongue twister for you

[Hep To The Jive]

Do Chibsons have 'chunk'?

You bet! And on the bridge pickup you can even get some twong!

[Spook410]

When spending my own hard earned cash, I will take a well built $1000 Yunzhi or Mr. Wu over a $7500 Gib$on any day.. but not if they violate trademarks.

[Hammertone]

I have the same angst about Fender copies with Fender waterslide decals. I have seen quite a few Bill Nash and Elliot Mechanic Tele and Strat copies that the buyers have subsequently placed Fender decals on. Now, I think that the 90s-era Mechanic Tele and Strat instruments by Canadian dentist, Elliot Mechanic are fantastic...better, on average, than any Fender that I have ever owned or played. Most, not all, of the Bill Nash instruments I have played are also commendably good versions of the Tele or Strat. To me, however, they stand on their own merits. I would never be interested in owning one that actually had a Fender waterslide decal on the headstock. At that point, it becomes a forgery. I would know the guitar's origin, but what about the next guy?
In general, I would pay _more_ for a Mechanicland neck than I would be willing to pay for virtually any Fender neck...but not if it said "Fender" on it.

Bill Nash doesn't build guitars - he assembles them from parts suppliers and relics the finishes on them. These days they sport Nash logos. Elliot Mechanic never built guitars. They were built for him from scratch by Brian Monty. Brian does not put Fender markings on his Tele or Strat-style guitars.

[mangotango]

There is no elephant in the room. It's illegal and has been illegal for well over a hundred years. The idea of identifying goods was addressed in the 1200s in England and the 1300s in Europe. Trademark laws were formalized in Europe, the UK and the USA in the second half of the 19th century. Trademarks (not patents, not copyrights) are a foundational concept of the flow of goods and services in the industrialized world. There are no ethical considerations to them. The people who break trademark law in this way do it on purpose, know they are doing it and know that it is illegal. It falls well within the long-established criteria used to determine if trademark law has been infringed by those "passing off" fraudulently identified goods. Trademark law, unlike copyright or patent law, is refreshingly simple. Very little grey area, no ideological discourse, no wiggle room, no nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Carry on.

+1, big time.

People out there may choose to equivocate and rationalise on grounds of their views of business ethics (now there's an oxymoron!) or perceptions of morality, that something like this is acceptable. So that's National and International Law on Intellectual Property, designed to protect inventors, discoverers and creators, on the one hand.....and some bloke wanting a cheap guitar that's pretending to be something it isn't, on the other.

No elephant involved at all.

[BigDee62]

US Customs confiscates counterfeit goods if they find them. If you can find a decent quality counterfeit the economic considerations might override the legal ones, but it's risky in regards to both quality and the law.

I bought a Chretsch on AliExpress. Turned out not to be the guitar in the photos. Supposed to be a Falcon but had the measurements of a Nashville. Incredibly shoddy in every possible way, to the point where if I changed every single part except the body and neck it would still be crap (and getting to be expensive crap). I threw it in the garbage.

The amount I paid for it was less than the amount I would hope to negotiate off the retail price off a new Falcon. In the grand scheme of things, not that big of a loss.

Counterfeit watches of reasonable quality can be found - it's a chance one takes. I break the law every day I drive on the freeway so I have no room to pontificate on the legalities here.

About the Falcon quest ... after tossing the Chretsch I bought a used Epi Broadway on eBay and am in the process of turning it into a sort of blonde falcon. Stay tuned ...

[gcb]

When spending my own hard earned cash, I will take a well built $1000 Yunzhi or Mr. Wu over a $7500 Gib$on any day.. but not if they violate trademarks.

As former owner of diferent Gibsons (175, 165, 335, LP Standard, LP Custom, 350T, Super 400) and current owner of two Gibson L5 Studios and one Yunzhi, I would take a $ 7500 Gibson as the one offered by Danny W. over 8 Yunzhis any time.

Depends on personal tastes.

[BigDee62]

... I would take a $ 7500 Gibson as the one offered by Danny W. over 8 Yunzhis any time.

I would too. Absolutely without a doubt.

Oh, except ... I don't have $7500.

[West LA Jazz]

How about Chomping at the Chavoy? Chella By Charlight? Slow Boat to China?

Good job! Hilarious twisters I have to admit.

PS: How about this svelte puppy? We all need a cheap guitar our collection I suppose. ;-)

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[Spook410]

As former owner of diferent Gibsons (175, 165, 335, LP Standard, LP Custom, 350T, Super 400) and current owner of two Gibson L5 Studios and one Yunzhi, I would take a $ 7500 Gibson as the one offered by Danny W. over 8 Yunzhis any time.

Depends on personal tastes.

Sometimes I wonder why people pick the guitars they do. People will buy what they want for whatever reasons they have, but is it the neck, finish, frets, woodwork, materials, et al or something else? I play my teachers L5's all the time (bought back in the day) and they are nice enough but they don't play or sound better than my similar models. My view is that it must be 'something else'.

I have many guitars including several expensive custom and boutique flat tops, Les Pauls, H535, Fender Custom Shop.. yawn.. you get the idea. My first Yunzhi I bought because it was cheap and I was merely curious about archtops. After that I bought them because they're quite good and given the ability to specify and the price there were things to be tried. Eight guitars means you get 16", 17", 18" models, maple and mahogany, shaded and natural, oval and f hole, floating, built in, and no pickup. I replace the hardware and they're good to go. Out of the eight, only one is giving me problems which is consistent with experience others have had. The rest will perform the function they were designed to do just fine. And they are each different and I enjoy all of them. A single L5 would not begin to cover it.

And, finally, I would rather have one high end custom built (many choices for $15K) than two L5's. But then, now that I've had many different archtops, I could name the functional reasons why.

[jazzbow]

How about Chomping at the Chavoy? Chella By Charlight? Slow Boat to China?

'Chinor Swing', 'Midnight Chue', 'Blue Chunk', 'All Chues'.

Or.....

'Gina Boy', 'Ginatown, my Ginatown', 'Kalamazoo Shuffle'.

To add further grist to the mill I found this on Gibbo's internet site search tool....

USA: 1-800-4GIBSON
Europe: 00+8004GIBSON1
China: 1-800-820-8841

[Woody Sound]

'Chinor Swing', 'Midnight Chue', 'Blue Chunk', 'All Chues'.

Or.....

'Gina Boy', 'Ginatown, my Ginatown', 'Kalamazoo Shuffle'.

Chiant Steps
Chiorga on my Mind

[vinlander]

Chester cheaps In

[Damon Lynch]

Beautiful Guitar may I ask what you paid for it and where you purchased it from. I just placed an order yesterday for one but it's black I would love a natural sunburst.
Thanks Damon

[GNAPPI]

In post #15 he says what it cost and where it was bought.

[plasticpigeon]

Looks nice, but I don't like the use of the Gibson logo as it is not a Gibson. In fact it is a bit embarrassing. However I've seen Loars and Hofners selling in the UK second hand for the same price, so I don't see the point.