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I'm in the middle of a fun little project. I'm building my first pedalboard. I'd like to use 3 pedals I already have, and two additional pedals. Here is the theoretical signal chain: Guitar>Tuner>Drive>Chorus>Analog Delay>Digital Reverb. I have the tuner, the drive, and the analog delay in my possession. I also have the digital reverb picked out. The pedaltrain mini, daisy chain, and power supply are on the way from Amazon. For the digital reverb, I'm looking at the Earthquaker Dispatch Master. It also has a digital delay on it, which I like. Other than that, I have everything but the chorus. Sadly, I have no idea which chorus pedals are good.
Here's a little information about what I'm using, and how. I have two guitars, an Ibanez hollowbody circa 2013ish, and a brand new American stratocaster. I currently have a Turbo Tuner from Sonic Research, a BB Preamp from Xotic Effects, and an MXR Carbon Copy. The amp I use is a Fender Princeton Reverb RI. I hope to pick up a Fender Twin Reverb RI someday, though, but that's for another day. The BB and the Delay are enough to get me Rockish tones which I apply to Jazzish music with my friends on a regular basis. We like John Scofield stuff, but also Mike Stern stuff. Problem is Mike Stern gets his chorus in a very specific way that can't be gotten from a pedal. Though I love his sound, I'd use it only occasionally.
Any comments, questions, or recommendations are greatly appreciated!
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08-06-2015 04:32 AM
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The Boss CE-5 works well for me after a drive pedal. It has a good range - from hardly noticeable to unacceptable. I usually use it at the just-slightly-more-than-hardly-noticeable level.
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I have owned several of the usual standards. By far the best I have ever used, and still my #1, is the old Ibanez Bi-Mode Chorus. If you can find one, BUY IT. A little pricey, but you'll be glad. JMO. In fact, I often think about looking for a second one in case mine ever goes bad.
Last edited by Woody Sound; 08-06-2015 at 08:48 AM.
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I have a Boss CH1 (don't like that, too sterile sounding), an EH Small Clone (very nice) and my favorite, the MXR Micro Chorus: simply great with just one knob. Goes from a subtle shimmer to a fast Leslie-like sound. Simply great!
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Scofield uses an old Ibanez analog chorus, so if that's the sound you're looking for, you might try that. I have a Boss CE-3, which can give a fairly convincing late 80s Sco tone. After a very short while, though, I find that kind of mono chorus sound very fatiguing and annoying and pretty much never use it anymore.
Originally Posted by dkjazzguitar
I'm in the middle of a fun little project. I'm building my first pedalboard. I'd like to use 3 pedals I already have, and two additional pedals. Here is the theoretical signal chain: Guitar>Tuner>Drive>Chorus>Analog Delay>Digital Reverb. I have the tuner, the drive, and the analog delay in my possession. I also have the digital reverb picked out. The pedaltrain mini, daisy chain, and power supply are on the way from Amazon. For the digital reverb, I'm looking at the Earthquaker Dispatch Master. It also has a digital delay on it, which I like. Other than that, I have everything but the chorus. Sadly, I have no idea which chorus pedals are good.
Here's a little information about what I'm using, and how. I have two guitars, an Ibanez hollowbody circa 2013ish, and a brand new American stratocaster. I currently have a Turbo Tuner from Sonic Research, a BB Preamp from Xotic Effects, and an MXR Carbon Copy. The amp I use is a Fender Princeton Reverb RI. I hope to pick up a Fender Twin Reverb RI someday, though, but that's for another day. The BB and the Delay are enough to get me Rockish tones which I apply to Jazzish music with my friends on a regular basis. We like John Scofield stuff, but also Mike Stern stuff. Problem is Mike Stern gets his chorus in a very specific way that can't be gotten from a pedal. Though I love his sound, I'd use it only occasionally.
Any comments, questions, or recommendations are greatly appreciated!
I've also used the original TC Chorus pedal a bit (I forget the model number; it's the matte black one that's a little larger and flatter than a Boss or Ibanez pedal and can also do a flanging effect). It's a much more subtle effect, without the blatant tone changes that the Ibanez and Boss pedals impose. IMO, more usable, but not the Sco chorus tone.
As to Stern -- His tone comes from using chorus in stereo and combining it with other effects (multi-tap delays, reverb, and sometimes harmonizer). So, no, you can't get this sound from _a_ pedal, but you can get it from two amps and either a multi-effects unit or several pedals. I actually really like a stereo chorus sound, but find stereo set ups impractical, and almost never am able to indulge. [As an aside, I know a lot of people kind of rag on Stern's tone as over-processed, and I get that. However, in person in a small venue, it's a fantastic sound. One of the great jazz guitar experiences is seeing him at the 55 Bar in the Village. If all you've ever heard is his fusion records, you haven't heard him.]
John
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This has been on my pedal board for the past couple of years. No plans on replacing it.
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I think you should have a compressor right after the tuner. TC Electronic makes a good one, and then all the standard ones from MXR, dynacomp, etc are available.
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I use this for fusion:
I don't know what it is about it, but I absolutely adore it. There just seems to be something about it... then again, I might be delusional and pretending that it's different to justify its high price, even though I bought it at an 80% discount. It's also very good as an all-round pedal in any respect, and the valve really is a great feature.
Anyway, can't go wrong with Boss!
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really? Never knew that TC made a compressor. Great pedals, but a compressor? I know nice compressors from Mad professor, Xotic, Mooer, Okko, Vahlbruch, and Boss (the Okko is the best) . Originally Posted by bluemusic4us
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That mxr micro chorus might be all I need, really. I was thinking a little bit about getting a Wampler Ego Compressor. The pedaltrain mini doesn't really have enough room, though. I would have to sacrifice something. The reverb maybe?
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I saw him there on my last trip back east in 2001 (too long). One of the great live music experiences of my life too. The place is so small that he needed to back out of the way for people coming in and out of the restroom while he was playing. Originally Posted by John A.
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I really dig your taste in pedals! Originally Posted by dkjazzguitar
I'm looking to get a Wampler Ego as well and wouldn't mind having the Earthquaker Dispatch Master either. I have an Xotic EP Booster which I like.
I don't necessarily have a specific chorus pedal recommendation, there are many which would work well. Based on your current great pedal choices I would recommend getting a true bypass chorus pedal though.
The Earthquaker DM is a great pedal which should solve your reverb and delay needs and would bring you to 4-5 pedals which shouldn't affect your unprocessed tone any.
I would do this:
Guitar > Turbo Tuner > Wampler Ego > Xotic BB > [Chorus] > Earthquaker DM
or get a decent clip on tuner and do:
Guitar > Wampler Ego > Xotic BB > [Chorus] > Earthquaker DM
Either of these combos should fit on the PT Mini, FWIW, I have 5 pedals on a Pedaltrain Nano.
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The only good chorus pedal is a dead chorus pedal
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The TC Stereo Chorus Plus is the best Chorus pedal ever. Larry Coryell uses it...
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I'm not a fan of chorus, the few times a project I'm playing on asks for, my modeler(s) cover that need flawlessly.
Having said that, this is the one used by Larry Carlton in his own pedalboard:
V2 Liquid Chorus | Truetone
As this is a discontinued product, you can find'em second-hand for next-to-nothing.
HTH,
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A quite unusual chorus is the Mad professor electric blue chorus. It is quite subtle and, IMHO, sounds quite nice and not so much "in your face" as other chorus pedals. I also like the Boss Chorus.
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If you really need chorus Mount Everest, what you need is JC-120. Never met sth better. CE5 is very good substitution. Cheers!
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I have a really old DOD stereo chorus pedal that I bought in the 80s (one of the light blue ones) and I still use it. It sounds great methinks.
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Sorry my bad. It's made by Xotic. Originally Posted by FrankLearns
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A3M2O3U6L5DL0B
Heard it demo'd and I really like the subtle sound of it.
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Origin Effects recently released compact versions of the Cali76 and Slide Rig compressors. Both are outstanding.
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ah, ok, got it. I have that Xotic pedal on my board and quite like it. But only in moderate compression settings, otherwise it get too "squashy" for me. Originally Posted by bluemusic4us
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Nice! I recall this being an updated version of the original Boss CE-1 gray "horseshoe" Chorus Ensemble, itself being allegedly the basic guts design of the Roland JC chorus design. I bought mine back in the day but rarely use it anymore since it sucks tone even when off. Still, I suppose I worked that nicely into my '80s prog-rock sound, even when it would overload a bit. Think old Rush: fat, swirly, thick. Nice. Originally Posted by Jazzpunk
In your opinion, how does the Retrosonic unit sound considering my description? Ever compare it to a CE-1? I'd expect there to be no more tone suckage or overloading going on. And that's a good thing of course. I've since considered getting one of these guys since the original was still the best chorus I've ever used, "flaws" and all.
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Update: I've put in an order for an SP Compressor from Xotic, mostly because I'm so pleased with their BB Preamp. I was getting some nice Santana sounds with my friends today!
I'm still waiting for my pedaltrain mini to show up. The amount of board space I have will dictate my choice of chorus pedal. I was also thinking of maybe getting a longer daisy chain, for 6 pedals instead of 5, if I have enough space that is. If that's the case, then I would use this signal chain: Guitar>Turbo Tuner>SP Compressor>BB Preamp>Micro Chorus>Carbon Copy>Dispatch Master>Amp. What do you think?Last edited by dkjazzguitar; 08-10-2015 at 08:55 PM.
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Kinda old humor. Do you have prince Albert in a can? ha ha Go away. Originally Posted by D.G.
The only good chorus pedal is a dead chorus pedal
Some people (I like to think myself) use the chorus pedal in new and beautifully subtle ways.
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sounds really nice and makes sense. I also have three Xotic pedals on my board, XP booster, SL drive, SP Compressor - all great! Maybe experiment with the compressor after the dirt pedal. It is a matter of taste, but I like it this way. Originally Posted by dkjazzguitar
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