Boss SY-300 Guitar Synth

**kris** · 04-18-2015, 02:58 AM

Working on standard cable. BOSS - SY-300 | Guitar Synthesizer

**xuoham** · 04-18-2015, 04:56 AM

Wow ... no GK !

Thanks Kris.

I sold my VG99 and don't need any guitar synth now but it's nice to see Boss/Roland making giant steps like that.
I would have bought the GP10 just for its effects but unfortunately it was only dual channel if you would use the GK input.

The big superiority of most Boss multieffects / guitar synth is the enormous potential for modulating several parameters with one controller.

I feel some new GT coming, dual channel, dual input, mmmm ... keep it up Boss !

**Phil in London** · 04-18-2015, 05:10 AM

the vid with Gundy Keller is rather cool...

**Deng** · 04-18-2015, 05:16 AM

More.....

**kris** · 04-18-2015, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Deng

More.....

Thanks for the links...
Best
Kris

**AlainJazz** · 04-18-2015, 05:59 AM

Oh no, me wants.

**wildschwein** · 04-18-2015, 06:11 AM

I'm interested.

**jzucker** · 04-18-2015, 06:36 AM

very interested, particularly if it accurately renders midi out in a way that would allow me to use it for input into notation software.

**kris** · 04-18-2015, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by jzucker

very interested, particularly if it accurately renders midi out in a way that would allow me to use it for input into notation software.

Maybe next step will be guitar synth. with standard cable and USB midi out...;-)

**AlainJazz** · 04-18-2015, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by kris

Maybe next step will be guitar synth. with standard cable and USB midi out...;-)

Oh, that would be truly awesome. I'm sure it's technically possible. Maybe we should wait for the next generation.

**Bluedawg** · 04-18-2015, 10:17 AM

Very cool

**newsense** · 04-18-2015, 12:48 PM

Does it have a "thunk" preset ?

**Eric Rowland** · 04-18-2015, 05:09 PM

Boss SY-300 F.A.Q

The best place for info, imho.

**rpguitar** · 04-19-2015, 09:49 AM

I must have one of these... but would love to see a video of someone playing it for chordal accompaniment, not just wild and crazy rock synth solos (not that those aren't cool). Looks like a $699 street price? If it does what it purports to, it's the unit we've been wanting since the 80s.

**jads57** · 04-19-2015, 11:21 AM

At least in the demo this would be great for someone playing modern Pop songs. But I'd like to hear a demo of more traditional uses like Piano,Organ,Strings,etc.

**Phil in London** · 04-19-2015, 12:10 PM

If I get this right, then its a parametric synth, not a midi-soundbox with a Bösendorfer patch. Synths can usually produce something that sounds like strings, or trumpet, even organ, but most likely the strengths are somewhere else. Caveat - I havent even seen one in real, so of course this is all only assumed, from playing around with parametric keyboard synths.

**xuoham** · 04-19-2015, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by jzucker

very interested, particularly if it accurately renders midi out in a way that would allow me to use it for input into notation software.

Apparently, not really doable since there does not seem to be any string distinction, unlike GK pickups.
You might have to correct what you just input : right midi note, but wrong string.
Too bad, but i understand it's just mission impossible with just a phone jack. Or ... ?

It used to be so much fun on the VG99 to have bass on 6,5 strings, and guitar on 4,3,2,1 strings.
A bit like (the fantastic) Charlie Hunter.

Demo doesn't say much, and it's always a bit painful to watch a (seemingly very decent) guitarist discover synthesis.
Ouch ! Talk about tacky patches, lol. (imo)

Originally Posted by rpguitar

I must have one of these... but would love to see a video of someone playing it for chordal accompaniment, not just wild and crazy rock synth solos (not that those aren't cool). Looks like a $699 street price? If it does what it purports to, it's the unit we've been wanting since the 80s.

Oh! Welcome back Mr RP ! Nice to read from you !

Yes, the street price is incredible ! They're gonna sell lots of those. And i'm glad about this, even if i don't purchase: it means that they gonna have more "cash flow" and maybe be able to finance the R&D for the NEXT kick ass guitar multi-effect.

Go, go, Boss / Roland !

ps: the tracking and response are just incredible! ... Wow, Boss does a big home run for sure ...

**jzucker** · 04-19-2015, 12:55 PM

i don't care about string determination. It's rhythm and pitch that I care about . I wish it had usb midi though. Sigh...Roland...

Also, I'll wait to play one before proclaiming the tracking is incredible. I suspect the midi out tracking is still abysmal like the current products.

**xuoham** · 04-19-2015, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by jzucker

Also, I'll wait to play one before proclaiming the tracking is incredible. I suspect the midi out tracking is still abysmal like the current products.

Yes, you are right on this, the tracking of the synth SEEMS great but since it is the tracking of the analog synth inside, it does not mean anything regarding midi out.

Originally Posted by jzucker

i don't care about string determination. It's rhythm and pitch that I care about

You don't write tabs ?

**xuoham** · 04-19-2015, 01:17 PM

Curious about more percussive patches, with vibra / rhodes like envelopes ...

**rpguitar** · 04-19-2015, 01:19 PM

Well, I fear it can't be everything to everyone. But I'm glad they chose to make this first product a true synthesizer, not a digital patch generator like all of the tired GR products with their cheesy and tired sounds. Some will bemoan that it is not a dedicated guitar controller for MIDI composition, but perhaps that's the natural future evolution of this new technology they've developed? We'll have to see.

As for piano, etc. - again, it's a synth, not a sample playback machine. Piano never sounds good played on guitar anyway IMHO. I am sure the oscillators on board will allow for some cool sounds suitable for comping, though, likely in the electric piano family.

**Phil in London** · 04-19-2015, 03:49 PM

I would be surprised if it has midi out in the sense of detecting the note pitch and transforming it. Seems like the midi functions are limited to patch switches and parameter settings. Otherwise they would have told the world in big letters that this box is a do it all (beyond being a synth that works with analog signals).

**newsense** · 04-19-2015, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by jzucker

i don't care about string determination. It's rhythm and pitch that I care about . I wish it had usb midi though. Sigh...Roland...

Also, I'll wait to play one before proclaiming the tracking is incredible. I suspect the midi out tracking is still abysmal like the current products.

The Sonuus poducts (sonuus - Music Products Designed in the UK) will do MIDI out, and write to your DAW, but only monophonically.

**jzucker** · 04-20-2015, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by xuoham

Yes, you are right on this, the tracking of the synth SEEMS great but since it is the tracking of the analog synth inside, it does not mean anything regarding midi out.

You don't write tabs ?

sometimes, but tab is easy once you have the notation in either finale or sibelius